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Comments on: National ID cards on the way?

Recent congressional vote on standardized, electronically readable driver's licenses raises fears about imminence of national IDs.
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This is an attack on our way of life!!!
by Phillip Ruffin February 19, 2005 1:00 PM PST
All of this talk on centralizing intelligence to one source, RFID and etc., is just the begining. Soon they will be embedding GPS chips into us, our cars, whatever else they can stick some sort of security into. If you are not a believer, the the New World Order is not so apparent to you. This is the begining of it. Movies like the Matrix just don't come out of nowhere, they are conjured up from the conspiracies and blatent disregard for human life the privacy that we value so much and take for granted. The US Govt. is trying to control EVERYONES way of life and pretty soon, there will be no more freedoms given. I mean with every freedom, there is a restiction, but soon, everything will be a restriction. Pretty soon with the direction we are heading in, we will all have bar codes on our wrist that scan into a central database under some mountain in Nevada, that has your whole life recorded, down to even your entire DNA strand informaiton.
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Where were you all in November
by jbtps February 19, 2005 1:12 PM PST
This type of legislation is what this administration has been all
about since the beginning. How can anyone paying attention be
even remotely surprised by this bill.
Keep in mind that the use of these WILL grow and that every
time you get your card swiped, you will be logged some "law
enforcement" database.
This is the government keeping tabs on you.
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Will not comply or be denied access in my country
by May 4, 2005 4:52 PM PDT
I for one will not comply, my AZ license is valid until 2024 and I will not replace it to comply
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you're not going to be happy
by August 8, 2005 3:51 PM PDT
Bold move, but will it make your life easier or harder it's an ID card not a change of life. I wonder who you voted for, or if you voted at all? because the elected officials are making these rules, not you.
I spoofed this board to write this comment.
by aabcdefghij987654321 November 2, 2005 4:47 PM PST
Three observations:
1. I used a fake id and password to write this, obtained at www.bugmenot.com. So much for valid id information.
2. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a national id card until such time as the government decides to utilize the information to find or control you. (such as in a revolution)
3. Technology already has us by the gonads. Computers can be used for good and evil.

One of Hitler's first acts was to require national registration, and the licensing of all firearms.

Whenever someone says "trust me", don't.
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This is a bad sign for the USA
by Noel10713 March 21, 2006 6:54 PM PST
Like many people have said, although this card may help protect us for a while, we can't give up our security to the government. They are human and just as able to give into corruption. The gov't, even if they don't think they are corrupt now, should be protecting us for future politicians that could be corrupt. I don't want the government to be my babysitter I just want them to protect my rights stated in the Constitution. I'm only 18 and i am serisouly afraid of what the US will be like 20 years from now. If it gets any worse then this I'm leaving.
"The evil that is in the world always comes of ignorance, and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence, if they lack understanding."
-Albert Camus
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SIGNS OF THE TIMES
by Dpuffcat March 26, 2006 4:43 PM PST
I'm not preaching but read the Bible. This is just signs of the times.God's coming soon.

Mary
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It's more than barcodes
by odesey7 April 13, 2006 2:06 AM PDT
The New World Order has an agenda and biochips are for real. Go to the Verichip website.
The government is alredy data mining using 3 super computers the size of football fields.
They scan cellphones and e-mail for certain words or phrases and redflag any accounts that fit their parameters for further investigation.
The Verichips are easily administered using shots. This is probably why they hammer away about bird flu vaccinations when there isn't even a human to human strain. The government is already spending billions to produce a vaccine that can't be produced without an actual human to human strain. Maybe it's just a way to administer the chip.
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The Bad Guys can't wait for this.
by 206538395198018178908092208948 May 2, 2006 1:58 PM PDT
I am making this post from an anonymous connection via a remote anonymous proxy using a fake name and registration to make this post! Technology is far to easy to take advantage of? Congress should ask the banks, CCs and insurance companies about all their undisclosed losses!

I ask if everyone carries a simmiler ID with consistant personal and biometric information and all of the information is going to be held in a centrelized location with transparent access to large numbers of state and federal workers? How are they managing security? As a proffesional in the field for over 18years I have yet to see or hear of any technology currently available that could do this. As a former cisco reseller I know the public market could use such tecnology in a number of corporations. Another point mentioning its human nature to depend on technology and if this system gets implemented? It will be easier to fool the powers that be? Since they will looking at the informaition on the card instead of the physical security on the card its self. I would compare it to the old days when most cashiers would not compare the signiture on the back of the credit card allowing anyone that has possesion of the card to make the sale. Now all you need is the internet a CC number, name, address to be a thief?
Technology is making the goverments, businesses, law enforcement, and theives life much easier by allowing easy access to ever larger amounts of data. Think about this before answering some 150 question survey about yourself or taking advantage of that awsome Free deal online. Also consider this? If search engines can't bring the usefull information forward in the mist of billions of websites? What makes these people think this is Not being done to internal databases or traffic along the wires?
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The Bad Guys can't wait for this.
by 206538395198018178908092208948 May 2, 2006 1:59 PM PDT
I am making this post from an anonymous connection via a remote anonymous proxy using a fake name and registration to make this post! Technology is far to easy to take advantage of? Congress should ask the banks, CCs and insurance companies about all their undisclosed losses!

I ask if everyone carries a simmiler ID with consistant personal and biometric information and all of the information is going to be held in a centrelized location with transparent access to large numbers of state and federal workers? How are they managing security? As a proffesional in the field for over 18years I have yet to see or hear of any technology currently available that could do this. As a former cisco reseller I know the public market could use such tecnology in a number of corporations. Another point mentioning its human nature to depend on technology and if this system gets implemented? It will be easier to fool the powers that be? Since they will looking at the informaition on the card instead of the physical security on the card its self. I would compare it to the old days when most cashiers would not compare the signiture on the back of the credit card allowing anyone that has possesion of the card to make the sale. Now all you need is the internet a CC number, name, address to be a thief?
Technology is making the goverments, businesses, law enforcement, and theives life much easier by allowing easy access to ever larger amounts of data. Think about this before answering some 150 question survey about yourself or taking advantage of that awsome Free deal online. Also consider this? If search engines can't bring the usefull information forward in the mist of billions of websites? What makes these people think this is Not being done to internal databases or traffic along the wires?

Hopefully their is a g0d that can help all you poor sheep about to be raiped in the night?
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Man made god?
by Attila2016 June 1, 2006 10:47 PM PDT
The only person in the Universe that I want to know my exact whereabouts at all times, for the rest of my life is God!!! We dont need a man made god, whether it be man or agency(s) knowing the whereabouts of every person on the planet at all times for the rest of days. Its Blasphemy!!!!!!!
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this is facism
by sicknd June 21, 2006 11:14 AM PDT
this is a very dangerous thing. People don't forget about the holocaust. you will give up any privacy and can be tracked by anyone with the right equipement, and be vunerable to all sorts of things, like being hunted. THis government is not immune to becoming fascist or commiting crimes that are Hilter-like. Give the government power like this, and it won't be terrorists that you fear.
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ready for the holocaust?
by sicknd June 21, 2006 11:20 AM PDT
You wnat to be hunted? Forced to comply with unneccesary medical procedures that are experimental that will kill and cripple you and your family without a choice or consent. You want to be forced to have a central fascist government make decisions for you. You want the mad killer to hunt you down and kill you becuase he has the equipment to track you and your id? you want to completely obliterate the constitution and have no freedom to choose whatsoever and make that decision for everyone else in this country. I think your an extremely ignorant person. It's sad that people in this country have gotten so lazy and complacent that they just don't care anymore about thier right to a free human exsistence. I personally don't like being one step closer to being rounded up for an oven bake. SAD state this country is in.
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"Illuminati"created by Rothschild in 1770
by mugwop July 11, 2006 10:32 AM PDT
DOES ANYONE READ? A History of the New World Order by David
Rivera written 20 years ago! People! WAKE UP! This ID card is one
step toward implanting a chip in your head! SLAVERY! Our
Constitutional Rights and Declaration of Independence is being
deleted FOREVER! Pull your head out of the sand and REFUSE to
become a faceless string of numbers. The only terrorist on this
planet is OUR VERY OWN white house.
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"Illuminati"created by Rothschild in 1770
by mugwop July 11, 2006 10:32 AM PDT
DOES ANYONE READ? A History of the New World Order by David
Rivera written 20 years ago! People! WAKE UP! This ID card is one
step toward implanting a chip in your head! SLAVERY! Our
Constitutional Rights and Declaration of Independence is being
deleted FOREVER! Pull your head out of the sand and REFUSE to
become a faceless string of numbers. The only terrorist on this
planet is OUR VERY OWN white house.
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"Illuminati"
by seci123 June 12, 2007 8:32 AM PDT
You seem to be well versed in the matters of the Illuminati. Does it actually mention the RFID chip? I am not surprised about that, because this has probably been under practice for some years now; but just catching public attention now!!
numbers
by lovelywyckeddream October 29, 2007 9:49 AM PDT
You have a social security card don't you?? SOOOOOO you're already a 'faceless string of numbers' to the government. If you're going to object to it at least give a better reason than 'We'll be a faceless string of numbers' because we already are.
Pathetic!
by aaron_facs July 15, 2006 3:06 PM PDT
NATIONAL ID CARD: This is an absolute pathetic law. If people would just wake up and stop depending on man for everything and read the book of Revelation in the Bible, you can clearly see that this was predicted by God thousands of years ago (about 6). How can someone say it is just coincidence. IT'S NOT! Not only are we having our privacy taken away from us, but also our religious rights. The 1st ammendment says we are to have "Freedom of Religion". Well, forcing us to take this mark or if we don't, making life rough on us such as we can't buy, sell, or have a bank account or even own or drive a vehicle, that is deffinately taking away the 1st ammendment from the people of the United States. Wake up people and stand up for what you believe in. Take charge. Encourage President to STOP this IMMEDIATELY and have it OVERTHROWN. We deserve our rights and our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ whom is God. IN GOD WE TRUST!
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In God We Trust
by aaron_facs July 15, 2006 3:10 PM PDT
NATIONAL ID CARD: This is an absolute outrageous law. If people would just wake up and stop depending on man for everything and read the book of Revelation in the Bible, you can clearly see that this was predicted by God thousands of years ago (about 6). How can someone say it is just coincidence. IT'S NOT! Not only are we having our privacy taken away from us, but also our religious rights. The 1st ammendment says we are to have "Freedom of Religion". Well, forcing us to take this mark or if we don't, making life rough on us such as we can't buy, sell, or have a bank account or even own or drive a vehicle, that is deffinately taking away the 1st ammendment from the people of the United States. Wake up people and stand up for what you believe in. Take charge. Encourage President to STOP this IMMEDIATELY and have it OVERTHROWN. We deserve our rights and our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ whom is God. I am not meaning to be offensive to anyone or any persons, but I am encouraging people to take hold of the matter in an appropriate manner. IN GOD WE TRUST!
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A People in Crisis
by heather_westley August 3, 2006 8:38 AM PDT
I am at a loss here...I have spoken to many people out here in the "real world" about this...and they don't seem to care one way or the other! This is not an issue to slide under the carpet. It goes aginst everything that we were built upon. Sure there are good things that could come from it but it does not slove any problems but instead insures that the bad guys get smarter and we the average citizens lose our privacy and more control over our lives. "Big Brother" will always be watching. Who wants to live like that? As I have said earlier, its great to be able to locate the dead body of my daughther after a sexual maniac has hacked into her information, followed her, raped her, and then killed her...don't know who he/she was of course cause thier chip was somewhere else at the time.
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I foresee the end time approaching!
by novelistinmich August 17, 2006 10:34 AM PDT
This is prophesied in the Book of Revelations, or if you would like this broken up into plain english, so you may understand, go to this website and listen for yourself! Endtime Ministries ... Politics & Religion http://www.soundwaves2000.com/endtime/

Those who do not believe the time of Christ is near, will change their minds after listening!

Marjie
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RFID = bad news
by ollathir75 September 26, 2006 1:59 PM PDT
Something that the Government seems to be forgetting is the relative insecurity of RFID devices. Current tags used in stores and warehouses are notoriously easy to access and/or change the information on. Are we seriously considering putting our name, address, social security number, AND fingerprint/face scan/retinal scan/whatever biometric information onto a tag that could be read remotely by anyone motivated enough?!
They'd certainly use some better encryption than most of the government uses as a standard for communications.
There is also the point of 'not requiring' states to comply with the national ID card issuing... What happens to the citizens of a state that doesn't comply? They can't leave the state without worrying about being pulled over, let alone crossing a border.
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From Democracy to Fascism
by David in Denver September 29, 2006 1:34 PM PDT
This is BS. I do not need the government keeping an eye on me. My license s/b sufficient. This ID card is unconstitutional. That is why we have State issued Ids. If you are from another nation, that is what the passport is for.

I also do not need the government to be tracking my moves.

Besides, they cannot stop ID theft now, so now you are kidnapped, murdered and then they take your ID card and have access to federal information and perhaps social security. We all know how efficient the Federal Government can be!!!!

Look at the countries that require National IDs v. those nations that have rejected them. Can you say "fascist"?
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