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Comments on: House approves spyware legislation

Bill prohibits "taking control" of a PC, surreptitiously modifying a Web browser's home page, or disabling antivirus software.

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spyware legislation
by stephan6969 October 6, 2004 7:16 AM PDT
It's about time that someone did something about unauthorized spyware that loads secretly on a person's PC. I am so tired of having to scan my registry and taking the chance of crashing it once a week. The p*** sites that piggyback in on legitimate surfing sites is out of control. Spyware removers are good but can't keep up with the proliferation of these idiots who can't mind their own business.
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Reality Check
by October 6, 2004 7:41 AM PDT
These advertising firms say that they're so worried about legitimate advertising being hurt. I'm wondering how many people actually heed the advertising they come across on the Internet. As has been stated in many of these spyware and adware articles, most people just ignore the stuff. Most people are influenced by TV and their own research. With that said, their Internet marketing schemes can't possibly be pulling in much money and would seem to be a waste of resources such as time and money. There must be some other reason that they're doing it then. One thing that goes on is that "data miners" are being placed on computers. As many of you know, all that these programs do is gather information about what is done on your machine. They then sell this information to companies that are buying it. There's one way that the money is being made. I'm sure there are many others.
Now, my problem isn't with the advertisements or with the data mining. I don't do anything illegal on my machine and I could care less if they know where I've been on the Internet. I don't even mind having to close a pop-up in order to keep browsing. My problem is that these companies are engaging in some pretty tricky tactics in order to force this stuff on people. For example, the window that pops up and says something like "You PC is not protected, are you interested in securing your PC?" and then gives you a YES and a NO box. It doesn't mantter which box you click, they will both take you to the same place! They even go so far as to make it look like a Windows messege box. This doesn't fool the trained eye, but the common user will not notice. I've talked to many people who don't understand how things got on their machine, and this is one of the ways that it happens. I also don't appreciate their nifty programs changing my computer's configuration and even causing damage. When my default browser opens to some sex site and can NOT be changed from that site as the home page, that causes problems and has stripped away a small piece of my freedom. After spending thousands of dollars on a machine, who are they to tell me what my home page should be. Also, some of these configuration changes are made in the registry. Changes to the registry can be very serious. The advertisers and spyware makes changes, and if that's not bad enough, some one has to go in and make changes to correct the problems. Not a fun thought. The worst one yet completely crashed my hard drive and I lost everything. I went to ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS and was uninstalling anything that I was certain was not installed by me. I got to the third or fourth one and once I started uninstalling, my computer rebooted. That was it, the machine never completed a boot after that.
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And then what?
by October 25, 2004 10:05 PM PDT
The same thing happened to me... twice in two years. Fortunately for me, I was able to recover from the second crash without losing any important documents or programs. My question, however, is thus: Whereas this nonsense has been deemed wrong and illegal (punishable, even.. yippie), what now? How many of us really believe that this is a realistic step towards thwarting these people? I think we saw how successful similar efforts are in the case of anti-telemarketing projects of recent years. A few suggestions?
1) Tobacco-style lawsuits - I want my two cents back, don't you?
2) Cyber vigilantes - Call me bitter, but I would pay someone to trace the software that crashed my PCs. For a few dollars more... well, see suggestion (3)..
3) COINTELPRO - Hack into their computers, track them down, and meet the little buggers in a dark alley.
Isn't it illegal already, Why not.
by October 8, 2004 11:56 PM PDT
When teen hackers planted spy programs in commercial and academic computers it was classed as a crime. Past judgements determined that information had value and that unauthorised copying of that information constituted theft. In the absence of specific laws theft of computer time has been prosecuted as "abstraction of electricity".

These companies are using deception and also using security holes. Using a security hole to get a program installed is electronic breaking and entry.
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spyware legislation
by r0isp April 20, 2006 8:45 AM PDT
In my opinion anyone who inflicts destructive damage on a person's pc should be proscecuted. Trojans and other malicious actions should be traceable back to the owner and the owner should be fined and sent to jail.
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