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Comments on: Court refuses to lift California e-voting restrictions

Call for paper audit trails for e-ballot systems gets vote of confidence from a federal judge.

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Paper trail Mandatory to keep elections legit.
by July 7, 2004 11:37 PM PDT
I will not buy groceries without an itemized receipt. I will not get my jeep repaired without a full estimate and an itemized bill. Why on earth would I give my vote away to an electronic machine that can probably be hacked, has not been tested in national elections, is not certified by any government and to any elected person that tells me not to worry, my vote is safe. Three cheers and a well done for the Appeals Court and Ca. Sec. of State Shelly. The integrity of the American electorial process is the most sacred item we as citizens pocess.
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Paper trails(as in story) are worthless except to make people feel better.
by Voice of Sanity July 8, 2004 5:56 AM PDT
Electronic machines have been used in national elections for years, in addition to counting local elections.

The fact is a paper trail that all the ludities are talking about is a reciept given to the voter not a paper log that is kept secure. It does not guarrentee any protection, they are never going to recall thoses paper receipts to check the count. All it does provide is a piece of a dead tree that can used to verify that a person correctly sold thier vote.
If people want to add/remove votes for a person they are all ready doing it, witness 2000 election where party members were found with empty ballots and voting boxes in thier cars. So now instead they have to crack the system, so what.

As for training; the training has to be used. Alot of the problem with the hanging chads were that people had training but did not use it, in this case empting the boxes where the chads were suppose to fall into.

All this decision did was say that yes the person appointed by the state can set requirements and decertify places that do not meet the requirements.
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No Unverified Voting Machines!
by July 8, 2004 11:07 AM PDT
Excellent-- it's good to see a court make a decision with
some common sense.

It's absolutely critical that the source code of any voting
machine be available for scrutiny-- this is the absolute
minimum acceptable standards. It's not acceptable to
use software where the public cannot verify that there
are no hidden biases or trap doors to fix the election;
the temptations are just too high when the people know
that they are acting in secrecy.
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