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update In a close vote, the justices rule that a federal law designed to restrict Internet pornography violates Americans' free-speech rights.

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Supreme Court keeps Net porn law on ice
by dwoerner1 June 29, 2004 10:58 AM PDT
What in the world is wrong with some of our Federal Judges. How can they, in good conscience, use the First Amendment, (freedom of speech), to protect and allow PORN on the Internet and at the same time restrict children from prayer in school or at an assembly? Isn't praying a form of "free speech"? Additionally, if I elected to say "under GOD" during the Pledge of Allegiance", isn't that my right under the First Amendment?
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by unknown unknown June 29, 2004 1:05 PM PDT
"What in the world is wrong with some of our Federal Judges."

That would depend on where you stand on this issue. Obviously those who are against this law don't think their is anything wrong.

"How can they, in good conscience, use the First Amendment, (freedom of speech), to protect and allow PORN on the Internet and at the same time restrict children from prayer in school or at an assembly? Isn't praying a form of "free speech"?"

Prayer is covered by freedom of religion and freedom of expression. The courts haven't ruled in away that stops children etc from praying on their own. If you want to pray at a baseball game etc you're free to do so. Religion is a personal matter and doesn't need the endorsement of schools etc. Religion is a personal matter and I believe the courts rulings on the matter reflect that. Endorsement by public institutions is completely unnecessary.


"Additionally, if I elected to say "under GOD" during the Pledge of Allegiance", isn't that my right under the First Amendment?"

If you've keep up on that issue you'd know the court allowed "under god" to stay in the pledge in no small part to due to a previous ruling that said people (including school children) can't be compelled to say the pledge.
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interesting
by robanga June 29, 2004 4:53 PM PDT
They would argue that in your instances its maintaining seperation between church and governement. Which has of course nothing to do with the truth, in which a portion of society wants tear down the moral fabric of society with this filth.

The framers had it right, they would not protect this stuff and either should we. They also had no issues with prayer in schools.
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A worthless law
by unknown unknown June 29, 2004 1:09 PM PDT
as porn from other countries is still widely avaliable on the Internet and such sites aren't bound by U.S law.
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Keeping Minors Safe from Porn is ADULT's responsibility
by June 29, 2004 4:30 PM PDT
Hey folks, come on now... It is NOT the responsibility of the government and courts to keep children safe from viewing/accessing porn on the internet, it is the PARENTS and other RESPONSIBLE ADULTS responsibility by installing "Parental Control" filtering software!!! Any adult who gives a child/minor unrestricted and unmonitored access to the internet on a computer, especially one in their bedroom, should be smacked right up side the head! People... you gotta go on line and just LOOK at what your kids can get into when on line. Just go to a search engine and type in any "slang" word for the human reproductive organs. You will shocked, or amazed, at the list you will be presented with (unless that particular search engine has built in filtering. If it does, just try a different search engine. You will then be just 2 or 3 mouse clicks away from viewing human anatomy. If you consider yourself a "responsible" adult, YOU are the one that must protect your minor kids. A simple $30 to $60 "Parental Control" program will work extremely well!!! It's something you just MUST do!!! I have been on line for over 10 years. Before I EVER let my kids on the computer I installed "Cybersitter". It was cheap and very good filtering software. (Still is) The software works by filtering out "sexually explicit" words placed into search engines and those that come in by email and websites. If a web address is entered that the kids have no business going to, they are "redirected" to a "SAFE SITE" like Sesame Street or PBS Kids and others like it. They update the "bad sites" filter 1 to 2 times a week, automatically! And the parents can add sites and phrases to be blocked like the kids name, address, phone number, school they go to. You get the idea. About 4 years ago I installed Symantec's Internet Security. This works even better because it gives the parent MORE control as to what can and can not be seen and has proven 99.99% effective at keeping my kids OUT of not only "Porn" sites but "Hate", "Drugs", "Bomb Making", and many many other "BAD" sites. I've had some parents say "I trust my kids". Ya right! As soon as you are gone or your back is turned they will be right into those "BAD" sites. Don't believe me? Learn how to check the History files. Just check out where your kids have been surfing. Filtering software on a computer is a "Requirement" when kids/minors are online. Look at it this way... If your kids go into a store where adult magazines are sold, the store personnel have either covered up the front covers of the magazines or have placed them in sealed plastic bags. X rated videos are kept "in the back room". If minors get too close, curious or start to pick up the magazines, they are "escorted" away from them by the adults in the store. Now, lets say there are NO adults around in the store and a single kid, or a group of "curious" minors are mulling around that store that has "girlie" magazines. Unmonitored and unsupervised kids. Don't think for a second they won't be right there at the rack looking through the magazines. Just like most of you, I was a kid once and curious too! My brothers and sisters found my dads girlie magazine stash. Yup! As soon as nobody was home, you guessed it! We were right into the magazines "Checkin' 'em out! This went on for MANY years before we were found out. Now, if those magazines were under lock and key and not just in a box in the back closet, we would not have been able to get into them. SAME THING WITH PORN SITES ON THE INTERNET!!! Parents, JUST INSTALL "PARENTAL CONTROL" SOFTWARE and the Porn and other bad sites will be electronically "under lock and key". It really IS that simple!! And yes, blocking software CAN be turned off by accessing the software with a "password" so those adults who wish to view whatever they want can do so. Just remember to turn the "Parental Control" software back on when you are through...
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Excellent
by June 29, 2004 9:55 PM PDT
I didn't read it all thoroughly, but I believe I catch your drift and I must say that you are correct. It's in no way the government's responsability, it's the parents.
Should not be protected
by robanga June 29, 2004 4:49 PM PDT
This garbage is about as worthy of free speech protection as some jihad web site celibrating/encouraging killing non-muslims.

Let's hope the court in Philly has more courage than the five justices here.
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by unknown unknown June 29, 2004 7:09 PM PDT
"This garbage is about as worthy of free speech protection as some jihad web site celibrating/encouraging killing non-muslims."

Free speech means you take the good with the bad. If we arbitrally start censoring speech because someone finds it offensive we can't very well call it free speech any more. Well we could but it wouldn?t be accurate. There are hate sites all over the net, and more than likely a few suggesting the killing non-muslims.


"Let's hope the court in Philly has more courage than the five justices here."

Censorship isn't courage its cowardice at its worse. Regaurdless of the ruling by the Philly court the lossing side will most likely appeal. This could very well work it's way back to the Supreme Court.
Likes M$
by Serpent June 29, 2004 8:29 PM PDT
Why i say tath ,example M$ chat have the reason likes that " To help protect you from spam, M$ chat is now available by ... "( you already know taht).
But spam and porn bots never ended .Why not 5 years ago ?
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