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Company lets you listen to high-fidelity downloads by the rocker that provide the same sound quality as the CD.

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Hyped by c|net, and still no one cares
by gerhard_schroeder May 3, 2006 10:47 AM PDT
When c|net is hyping a Windows Media download, you just know its a real turd that somebody needs you to buy...

Good music sells itself. Good music comes as an MP3. You want a better quality? Up the bitrate! Don't switch to some **** DRM format. I love people who whine about "oppression" in their songs, and then try to oppress their listerners with extra helpings of DRM.

Phony singer, phony journalist.
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Hyped by c|net, and still no one cares
by gerhard_schroeder May 3, 2006 10:47 AM PDT
When c|net is hyping a Windows Media download, you just know its a real turd that somebody needs you to buy...

Good music sells itself. Good music comes as an MP3. You want a better quality? Up the bitrate! Don't switch to some **** DRM format. I love people who whine about "oppression" in their songs, and then try to oppress their listerners with extra helpings of DRM.

Phony singer, phony journalist.
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I care...but...
by wasabifan May 3, 2006 11:10 AM PDT
Unfortunately, I am not going to give into the DRM mess of Windows Media Player. I use a Mac and Linux in addition to Windows, and I refuse to limit my listening to one computer out of four (not to mention my iPod). Too bad Neil gave into this protection scheme. I would have hoped he would have sought a more open approach.

Oh well, I can continue to listen to his old albums I purchased on CD and ripped to my iPod. Maybe I will give in to the CD purchase later. Maybe not.
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I care...but...
by wasabifan May 3, 2006 11:10 AM PDT
Unfortunately, I am not going to give into the DRM mess of Windows Media Player. I use a Mac and Linux in addition to Windows, and I refuse to limit my listening to one computer out of four (not to mention my iPod). Too bad Neil gave into this protection scheme. I would have hoped he would have sought a more open approach.

Oh well, I can continue to listen to his old albums I purchased on CD and ripped to my iPod. Maybe I will give in to the CD purchase later. Maybe not.
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Album Good, Approach Stupid
by R. U. Sirius May 3, 2006 12:33 PM PDT
Windows Media for $1.29 per song, infested with DRM, still lossless, plays only on my PC, and won't load into my iPod?

I'll wait for the CD and buy it at full quality for the same price.
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Album Good, Approach Stupid
by R. U. Sirius May 3, 2006 12:33 PM PDT
Windows Media for $1.29 per song, infested with DRM, still lossless, plays only on my PC, and won't load into my iPod?

I'll wait for the CD and buy it at full quality for the same price.
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Waffle man?
by tenalp May 3, 2006 4:04 PM PDT
Didn't Niel make a statement with "Let's Roll" back in '91? Talk about capitalizing on both sides of an issue. Of course at 60, he might have forgot.
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to be fair
by skeptik May 4, 2006 7:09 AM PDT
Millions of Americans have changed their status on support of the war on terror/Iraq issue. Indeed, the issue itself has evolved over the years. While I have my own concerns and reservations, I still believe we should stay the course, but I hardly fault anyone, including a Canadian, for expressing reservations about the current situation. The right to express feelings like these are what makes our country great.
Waffle man?
by tenalp May 3, 2006 4:04 PM PDT
Didn't Niel make a statement with "Let's Roll" back in '91? Talk about capitalizing on both sides of an issue. Of course at 60, he might have forgot.
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to be fair
by skeptik May 4, 2006 7:09 AM PDT
Millions of Americans have changed their status on support of the war on terror/Iraq issue. Indeed, the issue itself has evolved over the years. While I have my own concerns and reservations, I still believe we should stay the course, but I hardly fault anyone, including a Canadian, for expressing reservations about the current situation. The right to express feelings like these are what makes our country great.
Hold on people
by skeptik May 4, 2006 7:04 AM PDT
Yes, DRM sucks. I refuse to participate in it. But moving from a lossy to a lossless format is unquestionably a huge step in the right direction. Yes, an MP3 sounds "good enough" but is a dead end street. Any further re-iuncoding to a different format or bitrate will further reduce the quality of your recoding. Not to mention that all you iPod freaks may one day wake up and realize that MP3s sound crappy on a good home stereo system and you really do want the quality we used to get, even back in 1980s. Technology changes, do you really want your music collection locked into a single solution? Wasn't that a complaint about changing from cassette/vinyl to CD? Lossless is the only way to go. I'm glad to see it offered, and may finally begin to consider purchasing music as a download... now if we can just do something about that DRM...
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Can you actually here what you "lose"?
by g-luv May 4, 2006 2:17 PM PDT
If you really believe that the average music listener has the ear and the audiophile type equipment to playback music that lossless audio files can produce then maybe lossless reproduction is important to the music market. I would be willing to bet that more than 9 out of 10 people would not be able to tell the difference between a lossless, WMA or CD playback regardless of the sound system. The beauty of compression is the portability of the music, whether you listen on an ipod or Windows based device. WMA output form my PC to my home stereo sounds no different to me whither it is any of the above formats, so why would I want to eat of space on my drives? As for DRM, this is a terrific solution that allows for legal download service so I can get great music, song by song, delivered straight to my PC. If not for DRM I'd have to go on buying full CD's from the record store, or worse steal the music form the artist on some illegal site.
Hold on people
by skeptik May 4, 2006 7:04 AM PDT
Yes, DRM sucks. I refuse to participate in it. But moving from a lossy to a lossless format is unquestionably a huge step in the right direction. Yes, an MP3 sounds "good enough" but is a dead end street. Any further re-iuncoding to a different format or bitrate will further reduce the quality of your recoding. Not to mention that all you iPod freaks may one day wake up and realize that MP3s sound crappy on a good home stereo system and you really do want the quality we used to get, even back in 1980s. Technology changes, do you really want your music collection locked into a single solution? Wasn't that a complaint about changing from cassette/vinyl to CD? Lossless is the only way to go. I'm glad to see it offered, and may finally begin to consider purchasing music as a download... now if we can just do something about that DRM...
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Can you actually here what you "lose"?
by g-luv May 4, 2006 2:17 PM PDT
If you really believe that the average music listener has the ear and the audiophile type equipment to playback music that lossless audio files can produce then maybe lossless reproduction is important to the music market. I would be willing to bet that more than 9 out of 10 people would not be able to tell the difference between a lossless, WMA or CD playback regardless of the sound system. The beauty of compression is the portability of the music, whether you listen on an ipod or Windows based device. WMA output form my PC to my home stereo sounds no different to me whither it is any of the above formats, so why would I want to eat of space on my drives? As for DRM, this is a terrific solution that allows for legal download service so I can get great music, song by song, delivered straight to my PC. If not for DRM I'd have to go on buying full CD's from the record store, or worse steal the music form the artist on some illegal site.
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