Comments on: Music industry seeks Hollywood's 'windows'

Online evolution means the 99-cent song's role will diminish over time, label insiders say.

[bobby_brady]

RIAA continues to sucker consumers

But I just love it when the RIAA claims they will try and sucker more $$$ from "mobile" users. Basically it's saying they're going to try and charge $3 a song, which is infested with DRM, to play on your cell phone.

Do fall for it, wait for the ipod phone. Hopefully Steve Jobs will still offer music at 99cents.

[bobby_brady]

RIAA continues to sucker consumers

But I just love it when the RIAA claims they will try and sucker more $$$ from "mobile" users. Basically it's saying they're going to try and charge $3 a song, which is infested with DRM, to play on your cell phone.

Do fall for it, wait for the ipod phone. Hopefully Steve Jobs will still offer music at 99cents.

[heystoopid]

Nuts!

Any industry, seeking to treat it's customers as expendable and with the continued selling of insipid mediocre new music(one tune suits the world regardless individual taste and style), is one that seeks self extinction! For all economic models show that a person can survive with only the basic necessities for life, no consuming industry has yet to survive without a customer! Let the dinosaur run begin, starting with the RIAA/BPAA/CRIA/ARIA members first.

[Heebee Jeebies]

Normally....

Normally you are right. However, when it comes to Hollywood and the Music Industry our government seems hell bent on ensuring they get to do what they want by enacting new law after new law.

With this kind of backing and the vast number of stupid people that don't stop and look at how baddly they are getting shafted before they buy I think both of these industries are going to do just fine.

What we need is a goverment that will stand back and let them sink themselves instead of proping up their poor business habits with new laws and regulations. We also need more consumers that have at least two brain cells to rub together.

Robert

[heystoopid]

Nuts!

Any industry, seeking to treat it's customers as expendable and with the continued selling of insipid mediocre new music(one tune suits the world regardless individual taste and style), is one that seeks self extinction! For all economic models show that a person can survive with only the basic necessities for life, no consuming industry has yet to survive without a customer! Let the dinosaur run begin, starting with the RIAA/BPAA/CRIA/ARIA members first.

[Heebee Jeebies]

Normally....

Normally you are right. However, when it comes to Hollywood and the Music Industry our government seems hell bent on ensuring they get to do what they want by enacting new law after new law.

With this kind of backing and the vast number of stupid people that don't stop and look at how baddly they are getting shafted before they buy I think both of these industries are going to do just fine.

What we need is a goverment that will stand back and let them sink themselves instead of proping up their poor business habits with new laws and regulations. We also need more consumers that have at least two brain cells to rub together.

Robert

[jamie.p.walsh]

This is a FANTASY model, totally unrealistic

I still have yet to figure out, who in their right minds do they expect will pay $3 for a song just because it can go on their phone?

Listen up people. IT IS NOT A FAIR PRICE. YOU ARE BEING DUPED INTO BELIEVING IT IS VALUABLE.

99 cents IS and will CONTINUE TO BE the starting price point for downloadable music. ON ANY DEVICE. PERIOD!!!

The RIAA should go back to marketing basics and stop trying to dictate their pricing. Let the market decide. 99 cents initially, 79 cents after 3 months, 49 cents after a year.

On a side note, I see no value to using your phone as an iTunes client. The market has shown that they will only bear 3 inch screens. I've searched through ring-tone catalogues this way......it is for crap!!! The user interface is much better on a PC/MAC or maybe, at the very least, a treo/sidekick/windows mobile device that does 280x300 resolution --- and even that is stretching it.

[jamie.p.walsh]

This is a FANTASY model, totally unrealistic

I still have yet to figure out, who in their right minds do they expect will pay $3 for a song just because it can go on their phone?

Listen up people. IT IS NOT A FAIR PRICE. YOU ARE BEING DUPED INTO BELIEVING IT IS VALUABLE.

99 cents IS and will CONTINUE TO BE the starting price point for downloadable music. ON ANY DEVICE. PERIOD!!!

The RIAA should go back to marketing basics and stop trying to dictate their pricing. Let the market decide. 99 cents initially, 79 cents after 3 months, 49 cents after a year.

On a side note, I see no value to using your phone as an iTunes client. The market has shown that they will only bear 3 inch screens. I've searched through ring-tone catalogues this way......it is for crap!!! The user interface is much better on a PC/MAC or maybe, at the very least, a treo/sidekick/windows mobile device that does 280x300 resolution --- and even that is stretching it.

Why are CDs more expensive than DVDs?

Just me but does anyony find it ironic that the soundtrack for a
movie will be more expensive than the movie. Yeah sure limited
audience etc. But pop songs? Sure those five guys and in the studio
have so much more overhead than say Harry Potter.

Why are CDs more expensive than DVDs?

Just me but does anyony find it ironic that the soundtrack for a
movie will be more expensive than the movie. Yeah sure limited
audience etc. But pop songs? Sure those five guys and in the studio
have so much more overhead than say Harry Potter.

[cjohn17]

Music as a Commodity

If your point is that free markets and competition should decide
music prices, you're right. Competition is the best way to secure
a fair price for a commodity. It amuses me that those that gripe
about music prices are sometimes the same ones who insist on
regulation in other arenas. Thereby driving up costs for the
commodity. Let's talk about gas prices.

Almost 40 cents per gallon of gas, or higher, is caused by state
and federal regulations. There's no free market for oil products.
Or phone services, for that matter. Check your bill. It's there.
Regulation after regulation, one on top of another driving up
costs. That's before taxes! Placed there by your elected officials.
God help those poor SOBs in California. Those tax and rule
happy fools.

So when you whine about the RIAA trying to jack up music prices
unfairly remember to use the same free market instincts in other
areas too.

Know you know and knowing is half the battle.

[cjohn17]

Music as a Commodity

If your point is that free markets and competition should decide
music prices, you're right. Competition is the best way to secure
a fair price for a commodity. It amuses me that those that gripe
about music prices are sometimes the same ones who insist on
regulation in other arenas. Thereby driving up costs for the
commodity. Let's talk about gas prices.

Almost 40 cents per gallon of gas, or higher, is caused by state
and federal regulations. There's no free market for oil products.
Or phone services, for that matter. Check your bill. It's there.
Regulation after regulation, one on top of another driving up
costs. That's before taxes! Placed there by your elected officials.
God help those poor SOBs in California. Those tax and rule
happy fools.

So when you whine about the RIAA trying to jack up music prices
unfairly remember to use the same free market instincts in other
areas too.

Know you know and knowing is half the battle.

[Scott W]

£1 is still a rip

£1 for a DRM riddled mp3 is a rip-off. £15 for a full album of 15 songs might seem worse, but remember you can rip and encode that album in whatever format and quality you like. want 120kbps ogg? go ahead. want to BUY 120kbps ogg? no chance!

[Scott W]

correction

i meant £15 for 10 songs (though my H-I-M album was £15 for 17, but that's neither here nor there)

[Scott W]

£1 is still a rip

£1 for a DRM riddled mp3 is a rip-off. £15 for a full album of 15 songs might seem worse, but remember you can rip and encode that album in whatever format and quality you like. want 120kbps ogg? go ahead. want to BUY 120kbps ogg? no chance!

[Scott W]

correction

i meant £15 for 10 songs (though my H-I-M album was £15 for 17, but that's neither here nor there)