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CNET's Eliot Van Buskirk explains why music and video are currently undergoing another unholy intermingling.

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Dumb
by hettybembler October 28, 2005 7:10 AM PDT
This is almost a Dvorak piece in its ignorance. No one cares about music videos. Especially kids.

Not to mention people were making short films for their music long before the 80s.
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Dumb
by hettybembler October 28, 2005 7:10 AM PDT
This is almost a Dvorak piece in its ignorance. No one cares about music videos. Especially kids.

Not to mention people were making short films for their music long before the 80s.
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Blame It on the Youth
by ArgentOwl October 28, 2005 7:42 AM PDT
Your summary makes The Sun seem oddly prescient when they named their latest album, since it is only available on DVD (or vinyl) but not CD. I think, however, that is was mostly due to the fact that they couldn't afford a DualDisc.

Speaking of which...if you really want to talk about an unholy intermingling of music and video, try DualDisc. Actually, don't. At least not if your discs travel a lot. That DVD side can quickly become useless, since DVDs cannot handle the typical incidental scratching that's no big deal for CDs.
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Blame It on the Youth
by ArgentOwl October 28, 2005 7:42 AM PDT
Your summary makes The Sun seem oddly prescient when they named their latest album, since it is only available on DVD (or vinyl) but not CD. I think, however, that is was mostly due to the fact that they couldn't afford a DualDisc.

Speaking of which...if you really want to talk about an unholy intermingling of music and video, try DualDisc. Actually, don't. At least not if your discs travel a lot. That DVD side can quickly become useless, since DVDs cannot handle the typical incidental scratching that's no big deal for CDs.
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Thank you, thank you.
by Dead Soulman October 28, 2005 7:58 AM PDT
This is exactly my main concern. Artists are not going to see a penny out of the music video sales. Even though they are usually charged for all the expenses for the making of the video. It comes out of their royalties. But, they, "the artist", don't own it. The record label does. Isn't that interesting??? So, a fecal business as the music business is, it ensures that the artist gets the short end of the stick. Trust me. It has been happening since the birth of the business. And the worst part is that "no one does anything" to improve it. Sure, there's the birth of the internet and all the hoopla involved in the development of new avenues. But, the truth of the matter is that the majority of artists don't have the "business bug" in them. So they get "screwed."
The moral of the story is: want to support your favorite artists? Go to their shows, buy their albums, create some noise. Videos; not a penny to the artists.
Apple has done for the record industy, what they couldn't achieve on their own; make them money out of music videos and give them the control back that they unknowingly gave to MTV in the 80's.
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Eh
by Bob Brinkman October 29, 2005 9:11 AM PDT
>>but, the truth of the matter is that the majority of artists don't have the "business bug" in them. So they get "screwed."

Most of these so called artists you see on TV are nothing but a product themselves, sure they have a voice and can look pretty but all the writing and music is done by producers. Thier clothes are picked out for them. They are a product and should feel blessed to have a much higher paying job then most of us will ever get.
Thank you, thank you.
by Dead Soulman October 28, 2005 7:58 AM PDT
This is exactly my main concern. Artists are not going to see a penny out of the music video sales. Even though they are usually charged for all the expenses for the making of the video. It comes out of their royalties. But, they, "the artist", don't own it. The record label does. Isn't that interesting??? So, a fecal business as the music business is, it ensures that the artist gets the short end of the stick. Trust me. It has been happening since the birth of the business. And the worst part is that "no one does anything" to improve it. Sure, there's the birth of the internet and all the hoopla involved in the development of new avenues. But, the truth of the matter is that the majority of artists don't have the "business bug" in them. So they get "screwed."
The moral of the story is: want to support your favorite artists? Go to their shows, buy their albums, create some noise. Videos; not a penny to the artists.
Apple has done for the record industy, what they couldn't achieve on their own; make them money out of music videos and give them the control back that they unknowingly gave to MTV in the 80's.
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Eh
by Bob Brinkman October 29, 2005 9:11 AM PDT
>>but, the truth of the matter is that the majority of artists don't have the "business bug" in them. So they get "screwed."

Most of these so called artists you see on TV are nothing but a product themselves, sure they have a voice and can look pretty but all the writing and music is done by producers. Thier clothes are picked out for them. They are a product and should feel blessed to have a much higher paying job then most of us will ever get.
Goodbye recording companies
by Michael Grogan October 28, 2005 2:14 PM PDT
Personally, I doubt the recording companies will survive much longer. The web provides a means for artists to promote themselves and sell their product directly without the intervention of the record companies.
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I doubt
by John Kuzak June 20, 2007 9:18 AM PDT
http://www.analogstereo.com/lexus_es_owners_manual.htm
Goodbye recording companies
by Michael Grogan October 28, 2005 2:14 PM PDT
Personally, I doubt the recording companies will survive much longer. The web provides a means for artists to promote themselves and sell their product directly without the intervention of the record companies.
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I doubt
by John Kuzak June 20, 2007 9:18 AM PDT
http://www.analogstereo.com/lexus_es_owners_manual.htm
The primary role of music videos...
by Earl Benser October 30, 2005 10:40 AM PST
... is to push the hype for the no-talent 'artists' which the record
companies want to foist off on the American Public. And MTV
played right into their hands. Now, the youngsters expect a
sleazy music video with every album and almost with every
song. In the meantime, we are saturated with junk music played
by no better than amateur talent, and usually promoted simply
by suggestive lyrics and videos.

Now if that's the way people really want music to be, then go for
it. After all, look what the absence of talented artists, and
equally untalented art critics, did to a great fraction of the art
world. Now we have whole museums filled with 'untitled'
garbage. And we'll have equal collections of equally worthless
'music'.

Yeah, so what's new. Quality is rapidly becomes a lost criteria in
everything. I think I'll go away now.

Rant off -------------
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The primary role of music videos...
by Earl Benser October 30, 2005 10:40 AM PST
... is to push the hype for the no-talent 'artists' which the record
companies want to foist off on the American Public. And MTV
played right into their hands. Now, the youngsters expect a
sleazy music video with every album and almost with every
song. In the meantime, we are saturated with junk music played
by no better than amateur talent, and usually promoted simply
by suggestive lyrics and videos.

Now if that's the way people really want music to be, then go for
it. After all, look what the absence of talented artists, and
equally untalented art critics, did to a great fraction of the art
world. Now we have whole museums filled with 'untitled'
garbage. And we'll have equal collections of equally worthless
'music'.

Yeah, so what's new. Quality is rapidly becomes a lost criteria in
everything. I think I'll go away now.

Rant off -------------
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