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Microsoft and Apple have significantly improved the parental controls of their operating systems, assuming people know how to use them.
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Parental controls have been available since long before Apple cut and pasted OSX from FreeBSD.
Apple fans need to get a grip; doing exactly the same thing as someone else is not 'invention' or 'innovation', regardless of what Steve Jobs says.
Parental controls have been available since long before Apple cut and pasted OSX from FreeBSD.
Apple fans need to get a grip; doing exactly the same thing as someone else is not 'invention' or 'innovation', regardless of what Steve Jobs says.
controls you mentioned have been on my Mac for years. (I haven't
upgraded to Leopard.)
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control web-surfing you had to enter the sites your kids could
visit and it denied them access to all others. The new OS allows
you to click on a box to try to deny access to adult websites
automatically. This is so much easier. It was a hassle if my kids
wanted to look at espn then look at the nba and then the lakers
and if he got a little different page I'd have to OK it every time. I
don't care what he reads about sports but at 12 years old I'd
rather not have him viewing porn.
controls you mentioned have been on my Mac for years. (I haven't
upgraded to Leopard.)
/P
control web-surfing you had to enter the sites your kids could
visit and it denied them access to all others. The new OS allows
you to click on a box to try to deny access to adult websites
automatically. This is so much easier. It was a hassle if my kids
wanted to look at espn then look at the nba and then the lakers
and if he got a little different page I'd have to OK it every time. I
don't care what he reads about sports but at 12 years old I'd
rather not have him viewing porn.
How many online sites for children offer parental reporting services, that is, periodic reports sent to the home via email detailing online activies in that site by that account?
How many online sites for children offer parental reporting services, that is, periodic reports sent to the home via email detailing online activies in that site by that account?
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There are times when it's ok to turn your head and let kids learn on their own by making mistakes. Unfortunately there are a lot of serious risks out on the web and there are times when parents' vigilance is imperative. Things like porn are too tempting and I don't want my young teen getting hooked. I also don't want them downloading illegally and exposing me to liability. And letting my daughter (or son) be exposed to potential predators?
Trust me, I have more pressing things to do with my time than read my kids' Facebook pages. But I'm not sure I have more important things to do.
Hopefully by the time my kids are grown, they will live by the lessons my wife and I taught them. But asking them to do so when they're 15 in today's society? Nope, not possible.
The best thing about software like this, if I understand correctly, is that each user has the option of turning it on or turning it off. Sorry, that is not censorship.
so called "censorship" controls should be a requirement from age 0 - 18, and the wise parent will apply them with a slowly decreasing grip.
but you you my friend, I see you haven't yet learned your lesson. and I bet you even refuse to read the bible too.
well, here in Illinois there is a saying oft spoke in all our prisons "You can't have the Bible in school but you must have the Bible in Prison" in illinois it is the law that any inmate that requests one must be given a Bible.
So on your 18th birthday, be sure and ask for your copy.
First, a few things about myself. I am not a pedophile who wants to be able to stalk kids online. I am not a parent who wants my kids to have sex at age 5. I am not a horrible and destructive parent. Actually, I am an 18 year old who recently escaped from a horrible and destructive home situation, part of which was caused by censorware. Now, a few points parents should be aware of.
1. Here's how you can tell if your kids are hooked on porn and masturbation: are they 14 or older? If they are, then the answer is yes. Frankly, it doesn't matter what you do, where there is a will there is a way.
2. Are you aware that software can be hacked? Amazing, right? Not really. I keylogged my way around every filter my parents ever installed. It wasn't even difficult. The longest I ever didn't know the password for the censorware was ~2 days.
3. Installing censorware is a perfect way to ensure that your kids will do exactly what you don't want them to online. Are you familiar with the phenomenon of kids doing what you tell them not to, because you tell them not to? Yeah. Your kids will simply go to the library or a friend's house. Think about it.
4. Keeping a newborn in a sterile environment free of harmful bacteria doesn't protect it. It simply makes it more vulnerable, so that as soon as it gets a slight infection it dies. You can't protect someone by hiding them under a rock, you need to educate them and show them the damaging effects of whatever it is you don't want them to do.
5. Nudity is not porn. Websites like domai.com are not pornography, they are art, and nobody should be offended by them. Seeing genitals is not sexual unless something sexual is being done to them. Then it becomes porn. Get it straight people.
If you in any way disagree with what I've said here, please reply in a civil way, rather than calling me a pedophile or a loser or something childish. Let's keep this conversation at the adult level.
/P
There are times when it's ok to turn your head and let kids learn on their own by making mistakes. Unfortunately there are a lot of serious risks out on the web and there are times when parents' vigilance is imperative. Things like porn are too tempting and I don't want my young teen getting hooked. I also don't want them downloading illegally and exposing me to liability. And letting my daughter (or son) be exposed to potential predators?
Trust me, I have more pressing things to do with my time than read my kids' Facebook pages. But I'm not sure I have more important things to do.
Hopefully by the time my kids are grown, they will live by the lessons my wife and I taught them. But asking them to do so when they're 15 in today's society? Nope, not possible.
The best thing about software like this, if I understand correctly, is that each user has the option of turning it on or turning it off. Sorry, that is not censorship.
so called "censorship" controls should be a requirement from age 0 - 18, and the wise parent will apply them with a slowly decreasing grip.
but you you my friend, I see you haven't yet learned your lesson. and I bet you even refuse to read the bible too.
well, here in Illinois there is a saying oft spoke in all our prisons "You can't have the Bible in school but you must have the Bible in Prison" in illinois it is the law that any inmate that requests one must be given a Bible.
So on your 18th birthday, be sure and ask for your copy.
First, a few things about myself. I am not a pedophile who wants to be able to stalk kids online. I am not a parent who wants my kids to have sex at age 5. I am not a horrible and destructive parent. Actually, I am an 18 year old who recently escaped from a horrible and destructive home situation, part of which was caused by censorware. Now, a few points parents should be aware of.
1. Here's how you can tell if your kids are hooked on porn and masturbation: are they 14 or older? If they are, then the answer is yes. Frankly, it doesn't matter what you do, where there is a will there is a way.
2. Are you aware that software can be hacked? Amazing, right? Not really. I keylogged my way around every filter my parents ever installed. It wasn't even difficult. The longest I ever didn't know the password for the censorware was ~2 days.
3. Installing censorware is a perfect way to ensure that your kids will do exactly what you don't want them to online. Are you familiar with the phenomenon of kids doing what you tell them not to, because you tell them not to? Yeah. Your kids will simply go to the library or a friend's house. Think about it.
4. Keeping a newborn in a sterile environment free of harmful bacteria doesn't protect it. It simply makes it more vulnerable, so that as soon as it gets a slight infection it dies. You can't protect someone by hiding them under a rock, you need to educate them and show them the damaging effects of whatever it is you don't want them to do.
5. Nudity is not porn. Websites like domai.com are not pornography, they are art, and nobody should be offended by them. Seeing genitals is not sexual unless something sexual is being done to them. Then it becomes porn. Get it straight people.
If you in any way disagree with what I've said here, please reply in a civil way, rather than calling me a pedophile or a loser or something childish. Let's keep this conversation at the adult level.
full set of parental lock down tools for the computer as a whole.
:)
/P
full set of parental lock down tools for the computer as a whole.
:)
/P
user is a large IT geek). It builds all of the functionality in its
software such that any task can be done 35 different ways. This
causes more confusion than it offers help.
Most people are not geeks like us (who hang out on a tech
board). Most parents would just give up if they had to decipher
all of the MS granularity in their software.
Make it simple to use. Understand your customer and what is
important.
user is a large IT geek). It builds all of the functionality in its
software such that any task can be done 35 different ways. This
causes more confusion than it offers help.
Most people are not geeks like us (who hang out on a tech
board). Most parents would just give up if they had to decipher
all of the MS granularity in their software.
Make it simple to use. Understand your customer and what is
important.
Tiger, and extensive Parental Controls are already available,
under System Preferences/Accounts. Options include:
Limiting the applications a user can access
Restricting a user's access to email
Restricting the websites a user can view
Restricting what users can do with the computer
Restricting whom a user can chat with
According to the article, in Leopard "New settings help parents
manage a child's time online, block use of certain Web sites or
applications like instant chat or iTunes, and watch over what
kids do and who they communicate with when Mom and Dad
aren't around." These settings have been available since 2005.
How is Apple "playing catch-up to Microsoft's parental controls"?
This statement is incorrect. Has the author ever used OS X?
I hope CNET will correct these errors.
Apple goes back to the Mid 90's with AtEase that fully locked down the system for any parent needing such a service.
MS plays catchup in Vista, and will further play catch up again now that Leopard has past them by.
Vista and really any MS OS isn't what you want if you have kids, they don't do it correctly, it's like it was an afterthought to them, Apple does it right once again.
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Thanks for reading.
best,
Stefanie
Tiger, and extensive Parental Controls are already available,
under System Preferences/Accounts. Options include:
Limiting the applications a user can access
Restricting a user's access to email
Restricting the websites a user can view
Restricting what users can do with the computer
Restricting whom a user can chat with
According to the article, in Leopard "New settings help parents
manage a child's time online, block use of certain Web sites or
applications like instant chat or iTunes, and watch over what
kids do and who they communicate with when Mom and Dad
aren't around." These settings have been available since 2005.
How is Apple "playing catch-up to Microsoft's parental controls"?
This statement is incorrect. Has the author ever used OS X?
I hope CNET will correct these errors.
Apple goes back to the Mid 90's with AtEase that fully locked down the system for any parent needing such a service.
MS plays catchup in Vista, and will further play catch up again now that Leopard has past them by.
Vista and really any MS OS isn't what you want if you have kids, they don't do it correctly, it's like it was an afterthought to them, Apple does it right once again.
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Thanks for reading.
best,
Stefanie
around for a while in OS X.
Leopard's parental control features, however, are vastly
improved over Tiger. I think that's why the author mentioned
Leopard's "major" improvements in parental controls such as
time scheduling. Tiger already had limited application use as well
as site blocking/allowing but Leopard offers more control in
these areas and also provides the parent to auto-lockout all
computer use between certain times (on a day-to-day basis).
Leopard also offers logging information for websites visited,
websites blocked, applications used as well as iChat logs.
Leopard, he could have said so. As it stands, the article makes
false claims and leaves the reader with the impression that OS X,
for the first time, features Parental Controls while trailing
Microsoft.
around for a while in OS X.
Leopard's parental control features, however, are vastly
improved over Tiger. I think that's why the author mentioned
Leopard's "major" improvements in parental controls such as
time scheduling. Tiger already had limited application use as well
as site blocking/allowing but Leopard offers more control in
these areas and also provides the parent to auto-lockout all
computer use between certain times (on a day-to-day basis).
Leopard also offers logging information for websites visited,
websites blocked, applications used as well as iChat logs.
Leopard, he could have said so. As it stands, the article makes
false claims and leaves the reader with the impression that OS X,
for the first time, features Parental Controls while trailing
Microsoft.
you don't want to have to have an IT person," Laemmel said."
no need in a home server.
- Has Laemmel heard of Windows Home Server?!
- by technewsjunkie November 20, 2007 5:39 PM PST
- "Within the home environment, you want it to be straightforward,
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- Probably because 98% of all home pc users have no interest and/or
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (120 Comments)you don't want to have to have an IT person," Laemmel said."
no need in a home server.