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"Anyway, everyone has this latest password list now, and it was even posted (several times) to the thousands of members of the fulldisclosure mailing list more than a week ago. So it was archived by all the sites which archive full-disclosure, including SecLists.Org."
MySpace needs to get a clue. Security through obscurity doesn't work. They should focus on fixing their system instead of going after mailing list mirrors.
I think the truth is that GoDaddy either didn't investigate the objectionable material or they did a **** poor job at investigating it. Frankly, it's my opinion, which isn't worth much, that GoDaddy screwed up and so did MySpace.
Lucky for me I use neither and after this I don't plan on using GoDaddy. Not that they care.
on a website, you should ALWAYS immediately remove it. Then
a persistent effort MUST be made to contact the owner of the
website. I am not sure how the last part of that played out. But
anyone complaining that GoDaddy bent over, is a complete idiot.
If YOUR user names, and passwords were posted on a website,
the last thing you want is a negotian to take place before that
confidential information could be picked up by even more
people.
What occurred with the security site, was NOT free speech. It's
called aiding and abetting. I hope most of you aren't so
completely devoid of rational thought would think that GoDaddy
was somehow wrong.
If someone posts a list of usernames and passwords in this thread, should news.com be taken offline?
Godaddy has in the past set restriction on what you can do with "Your Site"
if its registered using godaddy.
That's the number one reason I would never use them to host my domain name.
It's one thing to take down your site if you were hosing your site web pages with them.
It's completely another if your just using them as the domain name register.
Who electing you as the web police, godaddy sucks.
Don't even think of registering a p2p site or a torrent tracker with them.
If they don't want to host the domain name fine but they have also in the past
refused to release a domain name back to the owner of that domain.
He wanted to move that name to a different provider after godaddy decided
to pull domain name from there dns.
Don't register your name with godaddy it?s cheap for a reason.
if there is something wron legally then police or some law enforcement should be involved. To do this at a whims notice make it appear as if they have some bubble gum chewing teen age girl trolling the Godaddy registry with the finger over the delete key. Go Daddy should have been neutral in this issue until notified by law enforcement.
None of this has anything to do with it.
He wasn't expressing anything - the website was documenting mailing lists and god only knows what else. This is a ruthless world, and since the Internet is difficult, if not albeit impossible, to police - there's no way that, legally, anything could be done about this.
Myspace services millions of people, many of whom are not internet savvy enough to protect their own information. Now, because they offer this service, if anyone gets caught with identity theft or any other precluding situation - and it's somehow tracked back to Myspace, that's a PR nightmare and could infringe on their advertisers and their ability to make money.
I sincerely doubt that's a risk they're willing to take. Myspace operates within the United States, a capitalist society - some of you need to get over it.
Freedom comes at a cost, and it's the greatest good for the greatest number. Had this country not lived by that motto for so many years, we would have fallen a century ago.
"Freedom of speech isn't free" what a load of BS. In the US it's a fundamental right, guaranteed to everyone in the constitution. Obviously there are exceptions, you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater, but it's not the job of the government or ISPs or whatever to police what everyone says just because it offends someone.
Could that mean that there will be some bad information out there? Of course, but that's the price we pay to live in a free society. Like I said, however there are a few countries in Asia and the middle east that will gladly "protect" you from all that.
"Freedom of Speech has never been Free" runs counter to EVERY
tenet upon which this country was founded. No where does ANY
founding document talk about freedoms, including speech, as
something provided by government, or earned by its citizenry.
Instead, our founders (most of them, anyway) were quite clear in
their belief that these freedoms are FUNDAMENTAL, innate and
inalienable, and that government only served to secure them.
Contrary to popular myth, free speech IS absolute. I have EVERY
right to "shout fire in a crowded theatre," for instance.
I also, however, have the responsibility to endure the
consequences of those actions. If everyone yells at me to shut
up and sit down, no crime has been committed. If I print words
that defame a person, and these words are not true, then I am
liable for the damages caused. This is as it should be. At no
point, however, am I prevented from printing the words in the
first place.
Shouting idiotic slogans like "Freedom of Speech has never been
Free" may make you feel all cozy and compatriotic with the Toby
Keith crowd, but it and its sentiment have never had any
business in this country.
That said, Myspace should have taken immediate action upon seeing the list to disable the passwords on the accounts affected, and contacted their users. That would solve the problem, instead of this pathetic cover-up. Glad to see the parties involved are being exposed for their actions.
These were MySpace accounts. MySpace accounts have no value. MySpace is an entertainment site. I do not use MySpace and think that it is a joke and serves no purpose. I do think that MySpace should have responded to this by locking down the affected accounts and sending emails to those accounts to reactivate them.
GoDaddy has far worse web sites registered to them. I agree this is similar to taking down google because they provide CD-Keys in their search results or torrents of pirated material.
GOD WAKE UP IT IS JUST MYSPACE!!!!!
As we have said to our customers - Go Daddy is committed to keeping the Internet a safe place. If there is material online that is jeopardizing Internet safety, we will take necessary action.
In this case, Go Daddy attempted to contact the customer with regard to a large list of MySpace user names and passwords which appeared on his Web site. The registrant was not available at the time.
In order to protect users of MySpace from the risk of having private data revealed, we removed the site until we could make contact with our customer. Once we were able to discuss the issue with the registrant, he assured us he would remove the offending material and we re-enabled his site while he was on the phone. The site was back up within one hour.
In each case like this, my department follows a set of operating procedures evaluating whether to remove hosting content or to redirect domain names. The decision is carefully made on a case-by-case basis. Most times, the site is left as is.
An important issue I would ask you to consider is one that is a top priority for us at Go Daddy ? child exploitation or even the potential for it.
I don?t know of any parent who wouldn?t want their child?s username and password protected.
Ben Butler
Director of Network Abuse
The Go Daddy Group, Inc
Bbutler@GoDaddy.com
did the right thing, and as a custtomer of 7 years, and having
used several other services, one which tried to disallow me
renewing a domain so that another customer could buy it, I
cannot recommend G D highly enough. 48 hours is a reasonable
expectation for response, though I've found it to be often only
an hour or two. Godaddy have become the leading domain
registrar (I watched them grow from almost nothing) because
they have consistently treated customers with respect.
If you want security, go to prison. You will be secure and provided a bed, food, clothing, and an education. The only thing you wont have is your freedom.
GoDaddy, Gone.
They have no right to shut down domains that are hosted elsewhere, but they do it because they can. Customers who have paid to register domains but host them elsewhere are under constant threat of censorship with GoDaddy.
There are more trustable registrars out they and they cost less money too.
Of course, anyone reading the comments of 'avid' myspace users can pretty much discount them as uninformed and ignorant. I keep a myspace account for research and I assure you that there is NOTHING educated or impressive about its user base that would lead me to believe that they should have the slightest clue that the problem IS myspace, not the sites exposing their irresponsible practices.
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- by techgeek76 January 26, 2007 7:55 PM PST
- WOW. Listen to this one. A friend of mines site was hacked and things were deleted. they charged him 150.00 dollars for a restore with no results. They promise his information would be restored. I am going to cancel my accounts with them.
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