Comments on: FAQ: Protecting yourself from search engines

Sites record what you look for--just ask AOL users whose search histories were disclosed. How to protect privacy?

[far_desi]

Ixquick.com as Meta-Search... come on

I would hardly classify Ixquick.com as a meta-search engine. Most of the results are generated from PPC search engines. Even though the site is putting the results from sponsored search separate it still gives you results from PPC engines like overture and always chooses to link to the site using PPC engine and not an organic result URL.

[reybar]

Unclear on the concept

The writer needs more familiarity with the issues involved. He
says about Ixquick:

"The Netherlands-based company proudly says it doesn't keep
records of its users' Internet addresses. In other words, it does
save search terms, but the company says it's unable to link them
to any person, unique ID number or Internet address."

"'I'm a firm believer in the privacy cause,' Ixquick.com CEO
Robert Beens said in a recent interview with CNET News.com"

Beens, too, is unclear on the privacy concept. As the AOL
scandal showed, just the list of searches alone can be enough to
identify who is searching. AOL released no more info than Beens
collects, yet it was enough to reveal the searcher's identity.

NONE of these people - and that includes reporters - can be
trusted to have thought the privacy issue through and have a
competent grasp of culture, technology, legality, and yes,
mendacity.

[Robert E.G. Beens]

A very clear concept

Dear Reybar,

Your comment is not correct.
Just a list of searches alone can not breach your Privacy.
AOL released not only search terms, but also unique 6 or 7-digit user numbers.
These user numbers made it possible to combine the otherwise completely random search terms into unique user profiles.
Without this "glue" ,the millions of individual search terms would have been relatively harmless.

Since Ixquick.com deletes its user's IP address from its log-files there simply is no "glue" to build a user's profile.
This safeguards the Privacy of Ixquick.com users.

[mdcnet87]

Thanks Reybar and Mr. Beens.

I believe Reybar's concern is valid. Why does a search engine need to save serch terms at all? If there is a list of an anonymous person's search terms, there is a way to find out who those belong to; MSNBC did that and found a person based on only search terms with no user identifiable information at all (no ip address, name, or anything).

The solution to a true anonymous search engine is a search engine that doesn't save search terms or pages visited.

[n3td3v]

the ultimate way to protect yourself.............

don't use them

its very possible not to without compromising your internet experience

search engine companies have become a proxy government with too much information about people

u wouldnt tell the government your personal life

so why submit keywords to search engines when you know they are passed onto the government if

the police think you've commited a crime

even if you didn't commit the crime

your civil liberties are breached

stop thinking search engine are neutral

thats crap

they hand over your information to the intelligence services all the time

you wouldn't goto a 'mi5' or 'mi6' search engine to do your searches

but by using google and yahoo search, thats basically what you're doing

boycott all search engines

its just a myth that you need them

there are other ways to find out about web sites

you can post to public web forums and ask for information on a subject, and 99.9% of the time someone will post you a URL or recommend you a site

thats what i do

let others search for you...

who would be so gullible to use a search engine?

not i

test yourself for four weeks

the test is, don't use a search engine for 4 weeks..

try it for yourself, its easier than you think

[The user with no name]

lol

hmmm.... I want to find something I'm interested in NOW while I have the time to surf...
I know...
I'll goto ForumX.com post a request for info/url and then check back to get the info...
5 minutes later...nope...
well while I'm here I'll post for more info...
check back soon...
oops I'm out of time gotta go...

what did I accomplish? Posting crap on forums because I am TOO LAZY/TOO IGNORANT to use something like TOR (or to search for anonymizing tools) to keep me anonymous; which lazyness still allows my ISP to compile info about me to give to the government.. because if the Govt is going to Yahoo and Google YOU KNOW they're hitting up my ISP as well-- so for all this trouble and delay I am not any safer anyways!

That process may work for you but MOST people want to be able to surf NOW. For those people I recc TOR or other privacy tools for realtime surfing.

[bobby_brady]

Easy, don't use AOL

Anyone who is stupid enough to use AOL deserves to have their search history posted anyways.

[Steve Hirst]

Privacy notme.com

Complete privacy and security at the website visted, they have no way of identifing you, nor any way to pass Cookies, Trojans, a Virus or any kind of Spyware to you.

Complete privacy and security from any PC or device connected to the internet that you happen to be using at the time with absolutely no way for the PC to track where you have been.

Complete privacy and security on your credit card statement.

And, there is absolutly no software needed, it is ISP based, so it works from any and all PC's today!


This new Patented technology is an "Indirect Portal", not a proxy, an will change how users surf the internet forever. Why? You need to do nothing except surf from NotMe when you want complete and utter privacy. The way the internet used to be way back when.

[Steve Hirst]

Privacy notme.com

Complete privacy and security at the website visted, they have no way of identifing you, nor any way to pass Cookies, Trojans, a Virus or any kind of Spyware to you.

Complete privacy and security from any PC or device connected to the internet that you happen to be using at the time with absolutely no way for the PC to track where you have been.

Complete privacy and security on your credit card statement.

And, there is absolutly no software needed, it is ISP based, so it works from any and all PC's today!


This new Patented technology is an "Indirect Portal", not a proxy, an will change how users surf the internet forever. Why? You need to do nothing except surf from NotMe when you want complete and utter privacy. The way the internet used to be way back when.

[baswwe]

password thieves

they just log all your information and sell it to hackers

[btl-jooz]

notme.com is rabbit hole

You don't even give a decent link! If this thing is so great, then WHERE is a DECENT link to it? If it's not just FUD, then cough up the LINK. :|

[talledega500]

Use a search proxy and forget about it

Search proxies rock and they dont allow the engines to collect your data so theres nothing to report on.

Try it its free anyway. http://www.blackboxsearch.com

[talledega500]

Use a search proxy and forget about it

The only way around this privacy stuff is to use a search proxy. The engines cant collect or report on anything that way.

And its FREE. http://www.blackboxsearch.com

[Steve Hirst]

proxy's are useless ...

they do nothing to the PC. The history in the PC is recorded all over the place. Proxy's don't address that. You can erase everything, buy a program that will clean the PC out... but you can't do that from work, or your friends lap-top. A 'Indirect Portal" leaves no trace anywhere Period without any pain... not even a need to set IE Explorer to accept proxy's. THE USER DOES NOTHING except surf from notme.com from whatever PC they happen to be on at the time... Complete Stealth both sides. The history records
notme.com/getme:url13567.aspx When U close the page the link recorded is expired. The site visited has zero clue who you are... and zero way of identifying you. You don't even need virus protection nor spyware protection... can't get one =)

Proxy's are a joke...an Indirect Portal is the only way of achieving Complete Internet Stealth. notme.com to find out more...

[talledega500]

proxys work

The info that was handed to the govt by all the major search engines without your consent, and the info AOL published has nothing to do with YOUR local PC. It has to do with network based data collection.

Proxies dont keep someone from breaking into your house and your computer. They keep you from unwittingly participating in a fight for your personal information surrendered without you knowing it over a network.

[rmiecznik]

AOL is doomed...

I downloaded their free AOL, it installed a ton of unwanted crap, slowed my computer to a crawl and then it started to lock up.

I uninstalled everything and am never using AOL.

That company screwed up majorly. I would fire all the company executives who are reposible for these problems on the spot immiediately and the dumb ass CEO.

[Steve Hirst]

and the coolest part

If you use NotMe to break any laws Period, we will identify you in a snap.Think g-mail. Its important the users, normal people who want to do nothing... but, expect total privacy and security have an outlet for it. This technology is ISP based, works from anything you have connected to the net and is simple to use and totally effective.

Why does a normal person need to worry about getting information they deem sensitive. They do, and many people do not want AA or The Herpes Cafe or the Aids Hotline or RAINN in their histories yet need the help desperately...

done

Notme.com go wherever you want and no one will ever know, unless you break the law...

[good_nicks_taken]

IP's Are Often Static

If you use a router and you don't turn it off and have Comcast it's likely you will have the same IP for years. You don't need to be on some special network. If you go into your router and change the MAC address you will get a new IP. Some routers allow you to copy the MAC address of your PC's NIC instead of sending the MAC address of the router. Comcast will then give you a different IP.