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This will be some kinda soup here pilgrim, so don't switch on the pumps quite yet!
This will be some kinda soup here pilgrim, so don't switch on the pumps quite yet!
So why are we trying to put it all back together so it can happen again?
That is, of course, entirely contingent upon them deciding to do it right instead of just enough to get by.
So why are we trying to put it all back together so it can happen again?
That is, of course, entirely contingent upon them deciding to do it right instead of just enough to get by.
Global warming, though still a theory in itself, many scientists agree that if it does exist, it can takes years for mankind to make a significant dent in it. So let us say that, for the sake of argument, we as a populance of the planet earth did raise the temperature of the oceans by 2 degrees. This cycle would have had to start back in the 90's, during the Bush Sr. and Clinton administrations. And people across the globe have been dumping pollutants into the air since the beginning of the industrial age, over 150 YEARS ago. Saying that Bush Jr. is the only man responsible for a Category 4 hurricane b/c he refused to sign a piece of paper is absured.
Also, as the White House, the Louisiana state gov't and others have said, they were readily prepared for the after effects of the hurricane, NOT two leves breaking, dumping millions of gallons of water into the city. Now again yes, the Federal gov't as a whole could have approved the renovations of these defenses; however so could have the Clinton admins, Bush Sr., Reagan (God rest is soul) and so forth. If you must blame the mistakes made in the present, look to the ones made in the past as well that have led to this.
Also, in a more general sense, Mother Nature can be a beautiful B!%#H sometimes, capable of the most wonderful and destructive events man has ever seen. But this huricanne, just like the tsunami of last year, the 1906 San Fran. earthquake and so on, was created by the will of God alone. Blaming Bush and the government for it can feel good right now, but its human nature to blame someone...we need a tangible reason for WHY this event occured, even though there really isn't one. And yes, things could have been done to prevent it. But as others have said, it would have taken the Army Engineering Corp YEARS to upgrade the defenses if Bush Jr. had approved them at the time the Corp asked...so what good would that have done now?
As for people evacuating...almost 50% of the New Orleans populance was below the poverty line. They had no where to go, and no way to get there. They did not have the means to leave. And the gov't tried, but simply could not evacuate all those people in time.
Now, finally that my rant is done, I say this: a terrible, TERRIBLE event has happened on U.S. soil, and we must act; we must save our own. And the world now IS responding. Japan, China, Russia, England, and others are pledging help and support. But as powerful and strong as we are to the world, we must now look in it ourselves to help. How many of you hear, who have posted replies flaming Bush, his policies, our goverment and the past actions of others, have given to the Red Cross, Salvation Army, and others in the last few days? Something as simple as money? Blood? Food? TIME?
Go blame whoever you want for this tragedy. But fellow Americans are dying right now and need our help.
All this finger pointing is nothing shy of proposterous. Drop all of the silly political biases and get out there and help.
He refused the Kyoto protocol on the selfish grounds of damage to the American economy. Well, what has this done to the economy?
Global warming, though still a theory in itself, many scientists agree that if it does exist, it can takes years for mankind to make a significant dent in it. So let us say that, for the sake of argument, we as a populance of the planet earth did raise the temperature of the oceans by 2 degrees. This cycle would have had to start back in the 90's, during the Bush Sr. and Clinton administrations. And people across the globe have been dumping pollutants into the air since the beginning of the industrial age, over 150 YEARS ago. Saying that Bush Jr. is the only man responsible for a Category 4 hurricane b/c he refused to sign a piece of paper is absured.
Also, as the White House, the Louisiana state gov't and others have said, they were readily prepared for the after effects of the hurricane, NOT two leves breaking, dumping millions of gallons of water into the city. Now again yes, the Federal gov't as a whole could have approved the renovations of these defenses; however so could have the Clinton admins, Bush Sr., Reagan (God rest is soul) and so forth. If you must blame the mistakes made in the present, look to the ones made in the past as well that have led to this.
Also, in a more general sense, Mother Nature can be a beautiful B!%#H sometimes, capable of the most wonderful and destructive events man has ever seen. But this huricanne, just like the tsunami of last year, the 1906 San Fran. earthquake and so on, was created by the will of God alone. Blaming Bush and the government for it can feel good right now, but its human nature to blame someone...we need a tangible reason for WHY this event occured, even though there really isn't one. And yes, things could have been done to prevent it. But as others have said, it would have taken the Army Engineering Corp YEARS to upgrade the defenses if Bush Jr. had approved them at the time the Corp asked...so what good would that have done now?
As for people evacuating...almost 50% of the New Orleans populance was below the poverty line. They had no where to go, and no way to get there. They did not have the means to leave. And the gov't tried, but simply could not evacuate all those people in time.
Now, finally that my rant is done, I say this: a terrible, TERRIBLE event has happened on U.S. soil, and we must act; we must save our own. And the world now IS responding. Japan, China, Russia, England, and others are pledging help and support. But as powerful and strong as we are to the world, we must now look in it ourselves to help. How many of you hear, who have posted replies flaming Bush, his policies, our goverment and the past actions of others, have given to the Red Cross, Salvation Army, and others in the last few days? Something as simple as money? Blood? Food? TIME?
Go blame whoever you want for this tragedy. But fellow Americans are dying right now and need our help.
All this finger pointing is nothing shy of proposterous. Drop all of the silly political biases and get out there and help.
He refused the Kyoto protocol on the selfish grounds of damage to the American economy. Well, what has this done to the economy?
bush and his homeland secturty team have botched the rescue in the south.
billions are being sent in iraq our national guard is helpless.. and mostly in iraq..
didn't he learn anything from 9/11..apparently not.
bush and his homeland secturty team have botched the rescue in the south.
billions are being sent in iraq our national guard is helpless.. and mostly in iraq..
didn't he learn anything from 9/11..apparently not.
As I stated in my last post, bring our people home. We need our resources and assets deployed within our borders now.
As I stated in my last post, bring our people home. We need our resources and assets deployed within our borders now.
Dear Mr. Bush:
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the ****?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
Yours,
Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com www.MichaelMoore.com
P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st.
Dear Mr. Bush:
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the ****?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
Yours,
Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com www.MichaelMoore.com
P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st.
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- I'm a Truck Driver who is also looking for a job to cleanup after the Hurricane. So that the people can return.
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