Comments on: Hollywood, Microsoft align on new Windows

Vista, the next version of the operating system, has unprecedented features for guarding against video piracy.
FAQ: Vista's strong, new antipiracy protections

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DEBT

And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).

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DEBT

And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).

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DEBT

And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).

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DEBT

And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).

[mosshaven]

LINUX WILL PROSPER NOW

No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.

[mosshaven]

LINUX WILL PROSPER NOW

No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.

[mosshaven]

LINUX WILL PROSPER NOW

No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.

[mosshaven]

LINUX WILL PROSPER NOW

No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.

[catmando]

The Entertainment Industry Doesn't Get It

It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.

I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.

I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.

If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.

The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?

[R. U. Sirius]

You have no rights.

> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the
> content producers. Is that what they really want?

Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.

I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.

[catmando]

The Entertainment Industry Doesn't Get It

It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.

I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.

I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.

If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.

The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?

[R. U. Sirius]

You have no rights.

> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the
> content producers. Is that what they really want?

Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.

I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.

[catmando]

The Entertainment Industry Doesn't Get It

It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.

I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.

I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.

If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.

The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?

[R. U. Sirius]

You have no rights.

> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the
> content producers. Is that what they really want?

Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.

I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.

[catmando]

The Entertainment Industry Doesn't Get It

It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.

I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.

I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.

If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.

The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?

[R. U. Sirius]

You have no rights.

> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the
> content producers. Is that what they really want?

Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.

I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.

[corelogik]

Blinders, they have the damn blinders on again!

It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption,
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.

WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?

Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...

Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.

I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.

If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.

It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.

[R. U. Sirius]

I use a Mac too, but....

I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.

[corelogik]

Blinders, they have the damn blinders on again!

It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption,
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.

WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?

Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...

Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.

I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.

If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.

It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.

[R. U. Sirius]

I use a Mac too, but....

I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.

[corelogik]

Blinders, they have the damn blinders on again!

It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption,
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.

WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?

Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...

Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.

I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.

If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.

It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.

[R. U. Sirius]

I use a Mac too, but....

I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.

[corelogik]

Blinders, they have the damn blinders on again!

It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption,
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.

WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?

Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...

Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.

I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.

If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.

It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.

[R. U. Sirius]

I use a Mac too, but....

I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

Don't worry about it, anything MS will be hacked.

Give it a day or two, instructions will be posted all over on how to deactivate anything security related from Microsoft. Since when did MS, or anyone for that matter, think a Microsoft product could protect anything from anyone? Sheeze...my dog could hack your Microsoft box.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

Don't worry about it, anything MS will be hacked.

Give it a day or two, instructions will be posted all over on how to deactivate anything security related from Microsoft. Since when did MS, or anyone for that matter, think a Microsoft product could protect anything from anyone? Sheeze...my dog could hack your Microsoft box.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

Don't worry about it, anything MS will be hacked.

Give it a day or two, instructions will be posted all over on how to deactivate anything security related from Microsoft. Since when did MS, or anyone for that matter, think a Microsoft product could protect anything from anyone? Sheeze...my dog could hack your Microsoft box.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

Don't worry about it, anything MS will be hacked.

Give it a day or two, instructions will be posted all over on how to deactivate anything security related from Microsoft. Since when did MS, or anyone for that matter, think a Microsoft product could protect anything from anyone? Sheeze...my dog could hack your Microsoft box.