Microsoft is doing this to control the distribution technologies and thereby cut off competitors.
Hollywood may be selling it's soul to "the devil".
Once Microsoft controls the DISTRIBUTION and TECHNOLOGY (defacto) STANDARDS like it does with Windows Update using the internet to add "new" products that were invented elsewhere to the OS, ( for example the browser and _Google_ SEARCH ) then MS can hold Hollywood, and competitors, hostage in future developments.
This is so Windows Media Player is in charge of all entertainment
I agree Mike,
This is a deal with the devil. I happily use Windows XP and edit video. I shoot my own stuff and do photo montage stuff for friends and family. I have not been to a movie theater in over a year. I have not been to block buster or similar in over a year. I do not have HBO or any premium cable channels. Cuz the content out there REALLLLLLLLY SUXXXXXXX!!!! I also have more fun playing online games lol. Microsofts security solutions so far consist of automatically blocking everything --heck why dont they just block it from booting and that would secure it. So now in order to provide "security" to the Hollywood "content" producers there answer again is to remove features, to remove functionality to cripple to torture to maim....sorry. Hollywoood is probably savy enough to see through any MS master plan for dominance. I think that we will see more coordination going on in terms of new DVD/CD protection schemes that are understood by the software to stop certain things from happening. We should pay for our entertainment but in this scheme we really will have hell to pay.
As Microsoft gets more and more restrictive, my bet would be on the rise of open source (Linux and Solaris). Here's why.
Entrepreneurs and innovaters won't be able to do much on Windows going forward with all the mess of DRM entanglement being built in the new Vista architecture.
So that will begin forcing the search for an alternative. For a while that might be Apple, but Apple will be under pressure to institute DRM into OSX. The only other viable choices then, are Linux and Solaris (which was recently open sourced).
Microsoft is doing this to control the distribution technologies and thereby cut off competitors.
Hollywood may be selling it's soul to "the devil".
Once Microsoft controls the DISTRIBUTION and TECHNOLOGY (defacto) STANDARDS like it does with Windows Update using the internet to add "new" products that were invented elsewhere to the OS, ( for example the browser and _Google_ SEARCH ) then MS can hold Hollywood, and competitors, hostage in future developments.
This is so Windows Media Player is in charge of all entertainment
I agree Mike,
This is a deal with the devil. I happily use Windows XP and edit video. I shoot my own stuff and do photo montage stuff for friends and family. I have not been to a movie theater in over a year. I have not been to block buster or similar in over a year. I do not have HBO or any premium cable channels. Cuz the content out there REALLLLLLLLY SUXXXXXXX!!!! I also have more fun playing online games lol. Microsofts security solutions so far consist of automatically blocking everything --heck why dont they just block it from booting and that would secure it. So now in order to provide "security" to the Hollywood "content" producers there answer again is to remove features, to remove functionality to cripple to torture to maim....sorry. Hollywoood is probably savy enough to see through any MS master plan for dominance. I think that we will see more coordination going on in terms of new DVD/CD protection schemes that are understood by the software to stop certain things from happening. We should pay for our entertainment but in this scheme we really will have hell to pay.
As Microsoft gets more and more restrictive, my bet would be on the rise of open source (Linux and Solaris). Here's why.
Entrepreneurs and innovaters won't be able to do much on Windows going forward with all the mess of DRM entanglement being built in the new Vista architecture.
So that will begin forcing the search for an alternative. For a while that might be Apple, but Apple will be under pressure to institute DRM into OSX. The only other viable choices then, are Linux and Solaris (which was recently open sourced).
If I can't play my mp3's or MPEG files, goodbye MSFT
I'll freaking tell everyone I know to switch to Linux. I've been using Windows/DOS since the 80's, Microsoft better NOT tell me what I can and can't do with my computer!
I think you're correct. Although MP3's might be okay in V1, eventually they'll be verboten. However, codecs like AVI, and Mpeg are all going to be DOA in Vista. It even sounds as though DVD's and CD's that are connected to older equipment are going to cause the system to shut down.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
If I can't play my mp3's or MPEG files, goodbye MSFT
I'll freaking tell everyone I know to switch to Linux. I've been using Windows/DOS since the 80's, Microsoft better NOT tell me what I can and can't do with my computer!
I think you're correct. Although MP3's might be okay in V1, eventually they'll be verboten. However, codecs like AVI, and Mpeg are all going to be DOA in Vista. It even sounds as though DVD's and CD's that are connected to older equipment are going to cause the system to shut down.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
If I can't play my mp3's or MPEG files, goodbye MSFT
I'll freaking tell everyone I know to switch to Linux. I've been using Windows/DOS since the 80's, Microsoft better NOT tell me what I can and can't do with my computer!
I think you're correct. Although MP3's might be okay in V1, eventually they'll be verboten. However, codecs like AVI, and Mpeg are all going to be DOA in Vista. It even sounds as though DVD's and CD's that are connected to older equipment are going to cause the system to shut down.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
If I can't play my mp3's or MPEG files, goodbye MSFT
I'll freaking tell everyone I know to switch to Linux. I've been using Windows/DOS since the 80's, Microsoft better NOT tell me what I can and can't do with my computer!
I think you're correct. Although MP3's might be okay in V1, eventually they'll be verboten. However, codecs like AVI, and Mpeg are all going to be DOA in Vista. It even sounds as though DVD's and CD's that are connected to older equipment are going to cause the system to shut down.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
These types of "protections" have been discussed on cnet and other places before and should come as no surprise. Both Microsoft and Apple have been in bed with the content companies for years, and it would be a mistake for consumers to trust either company to look out for their rights. These companies have neatly absolved themselves of any responsibility for any problems caused by their products throught cleverly-worded EULAs. I suspect that the same will apply to digital content (e.g. you buy a movie on a disk, it does not play properly on your equipment, no refund).
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
These types of "protections" have been discussed on cnet and other places before and should come as no surprise. Both Microsoft and Apple have been in bed with the content companies for years, and it would be a mistake for consumers to trust either company to look out for their rights. These companies have neatly absolved themselves of any responsibility for any problems caused by their products throught cleverly-worded EULAs. I suspect that the same will apply to digital content (e.g. you buy a movie on a disk, it does not play properly on your equipment, no refund).
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
These types of "protections" have been discussed on cnet and other places before and should come as no surprise. Both Microsoft and Apple have been in bed with the content companies for years, and it would be a mistake for consumers to trust either company to look out for their rights. These companies have neatly absolved themselves of any responsibility for any problems caused by their products throught cleverly-worded EULAs. I suspect that the same will apply to digital content (e.g. you buy a movie on a disk, it does not play properly on your equipment, no refund).
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
These types of "protections" have been discussed on cnet and other places before and should come as no surprise. Both Microsoft and Apple have been in bed with the content companies for years, and it would be a mistake for consumers to trust either company to look out for their rights. These companies have neatly absolved themselves of any responsibility for any problems caused by their products throught cleverly-worded EULAs. I suspect that the same will apply to digital content (e.g. you buy a movie on a disk, it does not play properly on your equipment, no refund).
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).
And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).
And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).
And people wonder why the level of household debt in the US is so high. The answer is simple: people spend money they don't have on things they don't need. It's what keeps our economy going for the time being. It will eventually catch up to us, though (the interest on people's debt will be more than their paychecks).
No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.
No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.
No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.
No vista for me! Hope Linux steps up to the challenge of millions of users running away from MS-DRM VISTA. Having used CP\M, I have really enjoyed Windows but I guess all good things come to an end. Tearfully....Bye, Bill.
It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the > content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the > content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the > content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
It amazes me how much effort goes into protecting entertainment. If media companies would spend more time making their assets more transparently available and at a lower price, all of this effort and complexity in piracy protection would not required.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> That leads to emnity between the consumer and the > content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption, protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for the evidence.
WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by- pass that little requirement?
Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying, how long did it take to by-pass those,...
Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to another platform and the users will follow, because they will be able to do what they want, when they want.
I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux, but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do it.
If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will, it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.
It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end, how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.
I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.
It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption, protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for the evidence.
WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by- pass that little requirement?
Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying, how long did it take to by-pass those,...
Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to another platform and the users will follow, because they will be able to do what they want, when they want.
I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux, but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do it.
If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will, it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.
It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end, how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.
I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.
It has been proven time and time again. Whatever encryption, protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for the evidence.
WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by- pass that little requirement?
Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying, how long did it take to by-pass those,...
Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to another platform and the users will follow, because they will be able to do what they want, when they want.
I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux, but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do it.
If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will, it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.
It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end, how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.
I don't know if future versions of Macs will be immune to this. Apple is betting its future on both sides of the audio/video coin, with pro production on one side and distribution to consumers on the other. The thing to worry about is what is inside those new Intel chips.
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and thereby cut off competitors.
Hollywood may be selling it's soul to "the devil".
Once Microsoft controls the DISTRIBUTION and TECHNOLOGY
(defacto) STANDARDS like it does with Windows Update using
the internet to add "new" products that were invented elsewhere
to the OS, ( for example the browser and _Google_ SEARCH )
then MS can hold Hollywood, and competitors, hostage in future
developments.
This is a deal with the devil. I happily use Windows XP and edit video. I shoot my own stuff and do photo montage stuff for friends and family. I have not been to a movie theater in over a year. I have not been to block buster or similar in over a year. I do not have HBO or any premium cable channels. Cuz the content out there REALLLLLLLLY SUXXXXXXX!!!! I also have more fun playing online games lol. Microsofts security solutions so far consist of automatically blocking everything --heck why dont they just block it from booting and that would secure it. So now in order to provide "security" to the Hollywood "content" producers there answer again is to remove features, to remove functionality to cripple to torture to maim....sorry.
Hollywoood is probably savy enough to see through any MS master plan for dominance. I think that we will see more coordination going on in terms of new DVD/CD protection schemes that are understood by the software to stop certain things from happening. We should pay for our entertainment but in this scheme we really will have hell to pay.
Entrepreneurs and innovaters won't be able to do much on Windows going forward with all the mess of DRM entanglement being built in the new Vista architecture.
So that will begin forcing the search for an alternative. For a while that might be Apple, but Apple will be under pressure to institute DRM into OSX. The only other viable choices then, are Linux and Solaris (which was recently open sourced).
It's going to be interesting.
and thereby cut off competitors.
Hollywood may be selling it's soul to "the devil".
Once Microsoft controls the DISTRIBUTION and TECHNOLOGY
(defacto) STANDARDS like it does with Windows Update using
the internet to add "new" products that were invented elsewhere
to the OS, ( for example the browser and _Google_ SEARCH )
then MS can hold Hollywood, and competitors, hostage in future
developments.
This is a deal with the devil. I happily use Windows XP and edit video. I shoot my own stuff and do photo montage stuff for friends and family. I have not been to a movie theater in over a year. I have not been to block buster or similar in over a year. I do not have HBO or any premium cable channels. Cuz the content out there REALLLLLLLLY SUXXXXXXX!!!! I also have more fun playing online games lol. Microsofts security solutions so far consist of automatically blocking everything --heck why dont they just block it from booting and that would secure it. So now in order to provide "security" to the Hollywood "content" producers there answer again is to remove features, to remove functionality to cripple to torture to maim....sorry.
Hollywoood is probably savy enough to see through any MS master plan for dominance. I think that we will see more coordination going on in terms of new DVD/CD protection schemes that are understood by the software to stop certain things from happening. We should pay for our entertainment but in this scheme we really will have hell to pay.
Entrepreneurs and innovaters won't be able to do much on Windows going forward with all the mess of DRM entanglement being built in the new Vista architecture.
So that will begin forcing the search for an alternative. For a while that might be Apple, but Apple will be under pressure to institute DRM into OSX. The only other viable choices then, are Linux and Solaris (which was recently open sourced).
It's going to be interesting.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
That alone is enough for me to say hasta la vista Vista.
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
This push by Microsoft may be the thing that drives the average consumer to open-source, however, Microsoft as a company is not stupid. They realize that there is a fine balance that they are walking to protect the content companies without driving consumers to seek out alternatives. Obviously, the content companies would like the strongest protection possible (in fact, they would like to be able to charge consumers every time they access the content), while honest consumers would like to be able to enjoy the content that they have already paid for (sometimes more than once) and will pay for in the future. If someone buys a Vista Media Center and finds that he cannot do things that his neighbor running Linux with MythTV can do, it's only a matter of time.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
I once did some research on what it would take (legally) to put some music to a slide show of pictures that I could give to my friends whom I went on a trip with.
I had to contact and negotiate with each lyric copyright holder, each music copyright holder, and each publisher before I would be in legal compliance.
If, instead, I could go to some central clearinghous (e.g., Amazon.com) where search really did bring up what I wanted whether it was a line from a movie, a lyric from a song, a title, an actor or whatever, and I could purchase it for a relatively low cost, I think they media industry would find that they would be appropriately rewarded for their efforts.
The fact of the matter is that anything that can be done can be undone and piracy will always be an issue. The more heavy handed the piracy efforts are, the more it complicates the unassuming user of the material. That leads to emnity between the consumer and the content producers. Is that what they really want?
> content producers. Is that what they really want?
Understand that you and I have no rights going forward. We are being stripped of the ability to play around with content and the entire digital environment. In a large sense, Vista will be a glorified DVD player or a glorified XBox, but it will NOT be a computer in the sense that we know of today.
I guess the Linux side is looking better and better.
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.
WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?
Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...
Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.
I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.
If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.
It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.
WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?
Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...
Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.
I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.
If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.
It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.
protection, licensing scheme etc,. anyone comes up with WILL be
by-passed. All you need to do is look at the historical record for
the evidence.
WinXP has "live" activation, how long did it take hackers to by-
pass that little requirement?
Commercial DVD's and CD's have encryption to prevent copying,
how long did it take to by-pass those,...
Whatever scheme is thought up is insignificant when placed up
against the millions of hackers and crackers worldwide. Within
days it will be defeated. If Wondows becomes to difficult a
platform to develope the by-pass tools on, hackers will switch to
another platform and the users will follow, because they will be
able to do what they want, when they want.
I do not use windows. I use Macintosh. I have yet to find
anything I CAN'T do with my Mac. I have found tools to let me
do anything I want wih any content I choose (most of them free
or at very little cost). I have only limited experience with Linux,
but I would be willing to bet that if there is something you want
to do with it, somewhere out there, there is a tool to let you do
it.
If Microsoft goes through with this, and I am sure that they will,
it won't be long before you begin to see an exodus to other
systems. I don't beleive that any OS can supplant Windows
overnight, but it is not bulletproof and can be done in.
It is only a matter of time. Historically all monopolies must end,
how much sweeter will it be to see Microsoft's in our lifetime.