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Comments on: FAQ: Vista's strong, new antipiracy protections

Microsoft is working closely with studios in ways that could affect your home entertainment system. Here's what you need to know.

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bloatware
by mpotter28 August 30, 2005 2:05 PM PDT
It wouldn;t be so bad if it was just one useless function but MS will add enough weird bs to VISTA that the new machine you buy to run it will perform at the same speed as your old one. The real question is why should I upgrade to a new os when all the features mentioned by MS have been dropped and they seem to be continually adding features (for free) that get in my way and help somebody else.
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If the "Market" decides...
by Had_to_be_said August 30, 2005 5:33 PM PDT
If the "Market" decides, ..."Vista" will be the end of Microsoft.

If Money TALKS, then you wont have any real choice. Run "Linux", it wont be allowed on the Internet. It wont be allowed to "talk" to any other "Trusted device". It wont be able to read any "Legal" media.

Or, buy a "Mac". "Apple" is also doing this type of DRM. And this, already "locked-down", and over-priced PC, has the potential for even more "control" over "users" choices.

Frankly, I am not optimistic. But, I DO hope I am wrong.
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Forget older versions of "Windows", also...
by Had_to_be_said August 30, 2005 5:37 PM PDT
They arent "Trusted" either. Nor, is MOST of their hardware.

So, if the BIG-MEDIA interests pull the strings...
Really ?!?
by corelogik August 30, 2005 6:41 PM PDT
Funny thing, I haven't had anytrouble using, moving around or
outputting any of my media,... must be all those other Mac's that
are locked down, mine seems to have skipped this step at the
factory,...
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If the "Market" decides...
by Had_to_be_said August 30, 2005 5:33 PM PDT
If the "Market" decides, ..."Vista" will be the end of Microsoft.

If Money TALKS, then you wont have any real choice. Run "Linux", it wont be allowed on the Internet. It wont be allowed to "talk" to any other "Trusted device". It wont be able to read any "Legal" media.

Or, buy a "Mac". "Apple" is also doing this type of DRM. And this, already "locked-down", and over-priced PC, has the potential for even more "control" over "users" choices.

Frankly, I am not optimistic. But, I DO hope I am wrong.
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Forget older versions of "Windows", also...
by Had_to_be_said August 30, 2005 5:37 PM PDT
They arent "Trusted" either. Nor, is MOST of their hardware.

So, if the BIG-MEDIA interests pull the strings...
Really ?!?
by corelogik August 30, 2005 6:41 PM PDT
Funny thing, I haven't had anytrouble using, moving around or
outputting any of my media,... must be all those other Mac's that
are locked down, mine seems to have skipped this step at the
factory,...
View reply
If the "Market" decides...
by Had_to_be_said August 30, 2005 5:33 PM PDT
If the "Market" decides, ..."Vista" will be the end of Microsoft.

If Money TALKS, then you wont have any real choice. Run "Linux", it wont be allowed on the Internet. It wont be allowed to "talk" to any other "Trusted device". It wont be able to read any "Legal" media.

Or, buy a "Mac". "Apple" is also doing this type of DRM. And this, already "locked-down", and over-priced PC, has the potential for even more "control" over "users" choices.

Frankly, I am not optimistic. But, I DO hope I am wrong.
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Forget older versions of "Windows", also...
by Had_to_be_said August 30, 2005 5:37 PM PDT
They arent "Trusted" either. Nor, is MOST of their hardware.

So, if the BIG-MEDIA interests pull the strings...
Really ?!?
by corelogik August 30, 2005 6:41 PM PDT
Funny thing, I haven't had anytrouble using, moving around or
outputting any of my media,... must be all those other Mac's that
are locked down, mine seems to have skipped this step at the
factory,...
View reply
Pointless bone thrown to Hollywood
by August 31, 2005 10:18 AM PDT
"All of these safeguards will only come into play if there's content involved that has very strong digital rights management wrappers already applied."

In other words, none of it will apply to media recorded or processed on a non-Windows OS. This will have no effect on file sharing networks.
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Pointless bone thrown to Hollywood
by August 31, 2005 10:18 AM PDT
"All of these safeguards will only come into play if there's content involved that has very strong digital rights management wrappers already applied."

In other words, none of it will apply to media recorded or processed on a non-Windows OS. This will have no effect on file sharing networks.
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Pointless bone thrown to Hollywood
by August 31, 2005 10:18 AM PDT
"All of these safeguards will only come into play if there's content involved that has very strong digital rights management wrappers already applied."

In other words, none of it will apply to media recorded or processed on a non-Windows OS. This will have no effect on file sharing networks.
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Big, BIG BIG mistake
by August 31, 2005 6:46 PM PDT
So.. Vista will be a OS that doesn't do what i want? ow.. so, why use it?? i mean, a OS for me should do what i want...
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Big, BIG BIG mistake
by August 31, 2005 6:46 PM PDT
So.. Vista will be a OS that doesn't do what i want? ow.. so, why use it?? i mean, a OS for me should do what i want...
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Big, BIG BIG mistake
by August 31, 2005 6:46 PM PDT
So.. Vista will be a OS that doesn't do what i want? ow.. so, why use it?? i mean, a OS for me should do what i want...
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Keep our data safe and private... ?
by cjohn17 August 31, 2005 7:50 PM PDT
MS wants to spend it's resources to keep movie studio properties
safe? What about a little MS effort to keep our data safe and
private?

Huh, Bill and Steve? Don't just stand there and shrug.
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Keep our data safe and private... ?
by cjohn17 August 31, 2005 7:50 PM PDT
MS wants to spend it's resources to keep movie studio properties
safe? What about a little MS effort to keep our data safe and
private?

Huh, Bill and Steve? Don't just stand there and shrug.
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Keep our data safe and private... ?
by cjohn17 August 31, 2005 7:50 PM PDT
MS wants to spend it's resources to keep movie studio properties
safe? What about a little MS effort to keep our data safe and
private?

Huh, Bill and Steve? Don't just stand there and shrug.
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YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING?!!!!
by rudydanielle January 28, 2006 11:59 PM PST
Sounds to me like Microsoft is stuck in the me, me, me, mode! It's all about make sure that make every dime than can...it's already ridiculous that if you buy an operating system and you have 2 computers you must buy it twice...now with Vista, your operating system won't do what it's told? What good is it? If I have movies on VHS & want to put them on DVD (takes up less space), why shouldn't I? I've already paid for the right to watch it who cares what I watch it on. Well besides Microsoft. It's absurd. Sounds like i'll soon be changing my O.S.
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Truly annoying, but understandable
by creativitychallenged March 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
This is really annoying. I tried to transfer some video off of a DVD using a program I bought, not realizing that it couldn't handle copy-protected data. I own the disc in question, but this precaution is for people who rent and copy movies, then return them and keep the video data.

In short, this element (like many elements in Vista) is a well-intentioned mistake. I don't have a DVD drive anymore. :(
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING?!!!!
by rudydanielle January 28, 2006 11:59 PM PST
Sounds to me like Microsoft is stuck in the me, me, me, mode! It's all about make sure that make every dime than can...it's already ridiculous that if you buy an operating system and you have 2 computers you must buy it twice...now with Vista, your operating system won't do what it's told? What good is it? If I have movies on VHS & want to put them on DVD (takes up less space), why shouldn't I? I've already paid for the right to watch it who cares what I watch it on. Well besides Microsoft. It's absurd. Sounds like i'll soon be changing my O.S.
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Truly annoying, but understandable
by creativitychallenged March 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
This is really annoying. I tried to transfer some video off of a DVD using a program I bought, not realizing that it couldn't handle copy-protected data. I own the disc in question, but this precaution is for people who rent and copy movies, then return them and keep the video data.

In short, this element (like many elements in Vista) is a well-intentioned mistake. I don't have a DVD drive anymore. :(
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING?!!!!
by rudydanielle January 28, 2006 11:59 PM PST
Sounds to me like Microsoft is stuck in the me, me, me, mode! It's all about make sure that make every dime than can...it's already ridiculous that if you buy an operating system and you have 2 computers you must buy it twice...now with Vista, your operating system won't do what it's told? What good is it? If I have movies on VHS & want to put them on DVD (takes up less space), why shouldn't I? I've already paid for the right to watch it who cares what I watch it on. Well besides Microsoft. It's absurd. Sounds like i'll soon be changing my O.S.
Reply to this comment
Truly annoying, but understandable
by creativitychallenged March 12, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
This is really annoying. I tried to transfer some video off of a DVD using a program I bought, not realizing that it couldn't handle copy-protected data. I own the disc in question, but this precaution is for people who rent and copy movies, then return them and keep the video data.

In short, this element (like many elements in Vista) is a well-intentioned mistake. I don't have a DVD drive anymore. :(
More Freedom In China!!!!
by eye2fun March 28, 2006 12:46 AM PST
Anymore I don't buy any music from RIAA member owned labels. I refuse to pay the absurd prices they charge in Theatres for a film I can rent 6 mos later. I thought we lived in a country where we have free choice and control of what is sold to us by the Mega Coporate Entertainment Thugs in this world? It is looking more n more like we don't!

China is bustling today! Their standard of living is skyrocketing. Their trade surplus world wide is 100's of Billions of dollars. No other country in history has ever had that kind of surplus cash coming in!

And now they're gaining on us in the freedom department. Our own government is no longer the Power of and by the people, but has become the government of and by the Corporate Thugs greasing the palms of the people we elect.

Corporate America is a nightmare that is creating it's own downfall with it's greed for money and control of about everything we do. Time to wake up and stop enabling them to bring about the facist regime they're setting up to run our entire lives with.

Otherwise we should all start saving for the condo in China to live in, when it gets really bad here.
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More Freedom In China!!!!
by eye2fun March 28, 2006 12:46 AM PST
Anymore I don't buy any music from RIAA member owned labels. I refuse to pay the absurd prices they charge in Theatres for a film I can rent 6 mos later. I thought we lived in a country where we have free choice and control of what is sold to us by the Mega Coporate Entertainment Thugs in this world? It is looking more n more like we don't!

China is bustling today! Their standard of living is skyrocketing. Their trade surplus world wide is 100's of Billions of dollars. No other country in history has ever had that kind of surplus cash coming in!

And now they're gaining on us in the freedom department. Our own government is no longer the Power of and by the people, but has become the government of and by the Corporate Thugs greasing the palms of the people we elect.

Corporate America is a nightmare that is creating it's own downfall with it's greed for money and control of about everything we do. Time to wake up and stop enabling them to bring about the facist regime they're setting up to run our entire lives with.

Otherwise we should all start saving for the condo in China to live in, when it gets really bad here.
Reply to this comment
More Freedom In China!!!!
by eye2fun March 28, 2006 12:46 AM PST
Anymore I don't buy any music from RIAA member owned labels. I refuse to pay the absurd prices they charge in Theatres for a film I can rent 6 mos later. I thought we lived in a country where we have free choice and control of what is sold to us by the Mega Coporate Entertainment Thugs in this world? It is looking more n more like we don't!

China is bustling today! Their standard of living is skyrocketing. Their trade surplus world wide is 100's of Billions of dollars. No other country in history has ever had that kind of surplus cash coming in!

And now they're gaining on us in the freedom department. Our own government is no longer the Power of and by the people, but has become the government of and by the Corporate Thugs greasing the palms of the people we elect.

Corporate America is a nightmare that is creating it's own downfall with it's greed for money and control of about everything we do. Time to wake up and stop enabling them to bring about the facist regime they're setting up to run our entire lives with.

Otherwise we should all start saving for the condo in China to live in, when it gets really bad here.
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