Comments on: Firefox cutting into IE's lead

As Firefox marks its 5 millionth download, a long-running survey puts IE below 90 percent for the first time.

re: Christopher Hall

If you use windows and IE, your vault door is wide open. Those are extremely unsecure. Even with the countless patches over the years, they rank among the most bug ridden and exploitable programs.

only for fools

IE is only exploitable for the fools. Without the proper protection via software and hardware you are somewhat open with only the "countless" patches. (i counted 16 in the past 2 years) You must be an apple user if you can't count to 16.
-rofl-

[Christopher Hall]

Sorry, didn't see this down here

Sorry, Just Me, I thought the thread had ended after the reply limit had reached the limit.

People keep talking about the security holes, but nobody has given me any specifics, yet. I haven't seen any first hand and all I've got to go on right now is the severe vocal minority that uses Firefox. Like I said, I'm neutral in the war, but I still haven't been given any extremely compelling reasons to make the switch. Same arguments apply for the Apple/PC debate: "That's really nice, but..." The "but" here revolves around a lack of compelling evidence.

What are these security holes that people keep talking about and why haven't I gotten hit if the vault is wide open? I keep my PC pretty healthy, so I don't really see what the problem is. It's one thing to say that a browser is insecure, it's another thing entirely to back it up.

re: Christopher Hall

If you use windows and IE, your vault door is wide open. Those are extremely unsecure. Even with the countless patches over the years, they rank among the most bug ridden and exploitable programs.

only for fools

IE is only exploitable for the fools. Without the proper protection via software and hardware you are somewhat open with only the "countless" patches. (i counted 16 in the past 2 years) You must be an apple user if you can't count to 16.
-rofl-

[Christopher Hall]

Sorry, didn't see this down here

Sorry, Just Me, I thought the thread had ended after the reply limit had reached the limit.

People keep talking about the security holes, but nobody has given me any specifics, yet. I haven't seen any first hand and all I've got to go on right now is the severe vocal minority that uses Firefox. Like I said, I'm neutral in the war, but I still haven't been given any extremely compelling reasons to make the switch. Same arguments apply for the Apple/PC debate: "That's really nice, but..." The "but" here revolves around a lack of compelling evidence.

What are these security holes that people keep talking about and why haven't I gotten hit if the vault is wide open? I keep my PC pretty healthy, so I don't really see what the problem is. It's one thing to say that a browser is insecure, it's another thing entirely to back it up.

My stats say different

Interesting...over the last few months the hits on my website from ANY other browser have only increased by .5%. While IE hits have increased from 98& to 98.7%. (the other .8% goes to safari - lol - i guess that sums up apple users!)

[Ubber geek]

sums up apple users

http://www.analogstereo.com/audi_rs6_owners_manual.htm

My stats say different

Interesting...over the last few months the hits on my website from ANY other browser have only increased by .5%. While IE hits have increased from 98& to 98.7%. (the other .8% goes to safari - lol - i guess that sums up apple users!)

[Ubber geek]

sums up apple users

http://www.analogstereo.com/audi_rs6_owners_manual.htm

This issue is bigger than the browser

There is a much bigger picture here than just what browser
people use. If Microsoft loses enough market share, web
developers will develop less IE specific code. It will just make
good business sense. You can't lockout a large percentage of
people if you're trying to sell something on the web. ActiveX will
leave websites. This has the potential of cascading back into
other MS technologies affecting other parts of their business,
their web server, IIS, may begin to lose market share. The
Apache web server already has two thirds of the market, last I
checked and that's with a bullet. I'm not a "Kill Microsoft"
person, but I do use a Mac and I for one would like to see more
competition in all areas of computing. I think the browser
market in particular has stagnated since MS gained its 90%+
share. Shaking things up with a new browser like Firefox already
has MS moving in the right direction. One of their spokepersons
just a few months said their customers were not clammering for
tabbed browsing or popup blocking and they did not schedule a
new release of IE until the release of Longhorn next year, but
with FF stealing marketshare, things changed. Now you can
expect a new one sometime this summer. They've already
released a popup blocker with SP2 (but I see there is already
security issue with it), so things are moving along.

This issue is bigger than the browser

There is a much bigger picture here than just what browser
people use. If Microsoft loses enough market share, web
developers will develop less IE specific code. It will just make
good business sense. You can't lockout a large percentage of
people if you're trying to sell something on the web. ActiveX will
leave websites. This has the potential of cascading back into
other MS technologies affecting other parts of their business,
their web server, IIS, may begin to lose market share. The
Apache web server already has two thirds of the market, last I
checked and that's with a bullet. I'm not a "Kill Microsoft"
person, but I do use a Mac and I for one would like to see more
competition in all areas of computing. I think the browser
market in particular has stagnated since MS gained its 90%+
share. Shaking things up with a new browser like Firefox already
has MS moving in the right direction. One of their spokepersons
just a few months said their customers were not clammering for
tabbed browsing or popup blocking and they did not schedule a
new release of IE until the release of Longhorn next year, but
with FF stealing marketshare, things changed. Now you can
expect a new one sometime this summer. They've already
released a popup blocker with SP2 (but I see there is already
security issue with it), so things are moving along.