Comments on: Revenge of the pop-ups

Web advertisers are already turning the tables on tools that aim to block out their most effective--and annoying--pitches.

What's wrong with people?

The only reason these things are still around is that some people
are patronizing these advertisers. Who are these idiots? I never
click on them, and if I ever see a popup, I boycott the site. If
everyone did the same, the problem would go away tomorrow.

The more I see the more I am convinced that a surprising
number of my fellow human beings simply lack the insight to act
in their own best interests.

I guess that explains the state of our government.

[Fray9]

The problem

The problem is that far too many people surf the internet like they watch TV. They reflexively click on whatever catches their eye whether it be something interesting or just a banner ad. They seek the path of most eye candy rather than the path of least annoyance because they arent actually trying to get anywhere or find anything theyre just looking for entertainment in whatever form it appears (Im also quite convinced that they dont actually read the internet, just look at the pictures and page designs).

[Ipod Apple]

I boycott the site

http://www.analogstereo.com/miele_vacuum_cleaner_manuals.htm

[loose_screw]

What popups?

I'm running Windows XP SP2 with the popup blocker at the "High" level, and have yet to receive one popup that I did not authorize. I went to the Drudge Report web site, and clicked on various links, and did not receive a single popup which was not blocked by IE SP2.

Go to http://www.popuptest.com, and you'll be able to test your popup blocker. None of them defeated my SP2 popup blocker, whereas previously a few of them slipped past the Google toolbar popup blocker.

[gtfvbhy]

Boycott sites with popups

There may be some sites with popups that we THINK we cannot live without, but we can do without sites that promote popups. We need to stop rewarding bad behavior by not patronizing these sites until they stop using popups.

[unknown unknown]

The only purpose circumventing popup blocking software serves is...

to annoy the visitor and make them think twice about visiting the site again. I've canceled accounts at sites the circumvent Mozilla's popup blocker.

[mcugaedu]

EXACTLY!

Exactly! I think spammers and pop-up advertisers are missing some higher brain functions. Do they think they can sell me things by treating me as an enemy on whom to play constant dirty tricks?

[Ipod Apple]

canceled accounts at sites

http://www.analogstereo.com/mercury_villager_owners_manual.htm

[saleen351]

Runnigh FireFox 1.0pr

I have not had one pop up, and I tried the pop up test and passed all of them, and the drudge report didn't do jack to my system..

[tripqzon]

POP-UPS PISS ME OFF!!

Pop-ups, are one of the biggest waste of internet bandwidth today. If an advertiser wants to put a link for visitors to click on a website, that's fine. If advertisers want to make money, sell a product that people want. But to force visitors to view their trash is totally unacceptable to me. I personally stay away from sites that use pop-ups and use Firefox for added privacy. Sneaky pop-ups and pop-unders should be illegal with jail time and large fines.

You're all idiots. TURN OFF ACTIVE SCRIPTING!

read the title. Why waste money on stupid software that does not work. IE already has a blocker. Yah it may be a hassle to go through the security settings to turn it back on when you need it, but it still works and is the best way.

[mcugaedu]

I think you missed the point...

Read the news story. People are circumventing IE's pop-up blocker (and any other pop-up blocker) by putting ads right in the chain of things you have to click through to get to the content.

While you could turn off all types of scripting, you would then be unable to use the full functionality of numerous web sites. Don't you do any online banking, for instance? You generally need scripting for the bank's user interface to work.

The point is, advertisers are making us do more work. They're not winning our loyalty or affection by doing it!

[William Kerr]

I Must be lucky

I installed SP2 and with the Blocker set to only medium I do NOT receive any pop-ups or pop-unders. Did I miss something?

I even googled Drudge report and hit every link it proposed without a problem. even sites I used to visit and receive pop-ups and pop-unders while using other blockers don't produce them anymore with the SP2 blocker.

These people must be doing something wrong like enabling scripting or something. But then I have java enabled on mine too.

[Ipod Apple]

I installed SP2

http://www.analogstereo.com/mercury_sable_owners_manual.htm

[Raife]

Not to mention...

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This also doesn't mention entirely fraudulent 'pop-ups' which disguise themselves as “Microsoft Windows messages”. I have dissected a few of these and most often they directly load “Spyware” or “Pop-up servers”, ...if the victim (PC user) clicks anywhere in the ‘BOGUS SYSTEM MESSAGE’ (...by clicking the fake ‘CANCEL’, or ‘IGNORE’ buttons, for example).

I’ve had to clean, and even completely re-install, several client-machines because of this phenomena (plus, imagine trying to explain to a client that they must DISTRUST everything they see on their own computer-screens, ...if they’re running ‘Windows’, use ‘IE’, and have a broadband-connection) . And, YES… this IS after loading ALL of the latest 'patches', ‘Service-packs’, and turning-off ALL non-essential services.

This is a NIGHTMARE that has to be better addressed, both by lawmakers, AND the companies that have created the doorway for this 'POP-UP NIGHTMARE', ...in the first-place.

[Raife]

Not to Mention 2 (cleaned-up version)...

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Sorry for the first post. I made the mistake of running it through "MS-OFFICE" for a quick 'spell-check' This inserted 'hidden-characters', which were carried through the 'clip-board', ...hidden, and inserted into the 'text-box' on the webpage, ...still hidden, ...until after I posted.

Here's the original post...

This also doesn't mention entirely fraudulent 'pop-ups' which disguise themselves as 'Microsoft Windows messages'.

I have dissected a few of these and, most often, they directly load 'Spyware' or 'Pop-up servers', 'if the victim (PC user) clicks anywhere in the 'BOGUS SYSTEM MESSAGE' (by clicking the fake 'CANCEL', or 'IGNORE' buttons, for example).

I've had to clean, and even completely re-install, several client-machines because of this phenomena (plus, imagine trying to explain to a client that they must DISTRUST everything they see on their computer-screens if, 'they're running 'Windows', 'IE', and have a broadband-connection) . And, YES' this IS after loading ALL of the latest-patches, 'Service-packs', installing 'pop-up blockers', and trying to turn-off ALL non-essential services.

This is a NIGHTMARE that has to be better addressed, both by lawmakers, AND the companies that have created the 'doorway' for this 'POP-UP NIGHTMARE', ...in the first-place.

You can't stop commercialism everywhere

People, we live in a capitalist country. Of course companies are going to try and get you to buy their stuff. That's how it works. Boycotting site with a lot of popups won't stop it, but complaining to the site manager might. The only way to eliminate ads from appearing on your browser is by using ad blocking programs. Better ones, that will really do the trick. Go out and find them, there are scads of them. I like the Proxomitron and the Protowall. They are both free and have worked flawlessley for me, and both contain no adware or spyware, something to be wary about then downloading freeware off the web. Try these two out to your liking, get rid of them if you don't like them.

Yes, Firefox 1.0 made the difference

I was using Firefox 0.8 (ok, so I'm a bit behind, but that's how GOOD it works!), and tried the drudgereport, and saw the popunder. Sent them a "thanks, you just lost another reader" email, then went ahead and upgraded to Firefox 1.0PR - and sure enough, it blocked that sucker!

[Ipod Apple]

you just lost another reader

http://www.analogstereo.com/mercury_owners_manual.htm

[ftsatosnat]

I type in "buy pop unders", and this what I get?

I typed in "buy pop unders and this is what I get? Pop-ups are totally annoying. But, it's not that hard to turn them off. Then you'll never have to deal with that annoying stuff again. Pop unders aren't that bad. You don't even know that they're loading, or that they're even on your page until you close out the screen you're looking at.

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[Ipod Apple]

it's not that hard to turn them off

http://www.analogstereo.com/nakamichi/nakamichi_zx9_service_manual.htm

[zzeon]

so true...

and the threat runs MUCH deeper than just popups.
just check out how SLOWLY microsoft wakes up and starts recommending turning off APIs they graciously enabled originally at OUR expense.

-but who bothers with "those pesky settings that BREAK the precious browser...", or has any clue that the default settings have continually evolved as MS gets tagged with identification of yet another hole in their browser that does not protect the user from malicious site behavior.

fact is, most users LACK the understanding of what ANY of it means, and just want a FULL internet experience, by following all the cows dressed in their king's new clothes.
cheers

[Ipod Apple]

continually evolved

http://www.analogstereo.com/mercedes_owners_manual.htm

[Popup Hater]

Popup Payback.

I have created a personal website and can't understand why it's ok for advertisers to have popups when my web page opens or when a link is clicked. I did not authorize them and I am not getting compensated from the advertisers. My site is a small comedy site at http://www.dontforgettolaugh.com
I feel that there must be a legal way for me to do one of the following.
1. Create a program that bounces the popup back to its origination to over burden the advertiser's site with their own popups.
2. Setup a site/forum where people can report advertisers that use popups and suggest boycotting their products.
Any suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Popup Hater

[Karridog]

Pop-ups

Try the Google Toolbar. I haven't seen a pop-up in many moons. You can turn them on or turn them off very easily.