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Comments on: Bankruptcy could protect Jammie Thomas

Appeals decision could require the music industry, which she owes $1.92 million, to prove malicious intent in bankruptcy court. That would be tough, say attorneys.

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by krosafcheg June 20, 2009 9:41 PM PDT
You could rob a million dollars from a bank, do time, get out and pay less restitution of you had buried the damn money and they never recovered a dollar.

Individual "sharers" are sharing a "slice" of digital clumps, it's not even the "complete" song. So really the argument is about what constitutes a violation of the DMCA and sharing. It's not "epoxy" without both pieces.

At the end of the day, we provide for a punishment fitting of the crime - doesn't seem to apply to civil logic.
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by onthetop1001 June 21, 2009 4:39 AM PDT
I think copyrights and patents are becoming useless. The music industry cannot rely on that, because no matter how they try to sue someone or some organization, there will always be someone else downloading or sharing musics. This is just the trend i think it's unstoppable. The copyright or patent owners should actually change their business models or revenue models. These people are just becoming desperate because their existing business models aren't working and this court case is ridiculous.
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by scoates2482 June 21, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
Copyrights and patents are fine. It's this organization and that verdict that are the problem.

They are trying to make an example of this woman to scare the hell out of everyone else. I hope it backfires.
by gdod25 June 21, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
Screw these arogant bast rds. I will not buy another CD. Its comedy, Metalica the bad boys of metal telling us "do steal music, its immoral!". What a bunch of clowns.
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by scoates2482 June 21, 2009 1:39 PM PDT
I always loved System of Down's cd entitled: Steal this Album!

Lars always was a ******. It just really came out big time after he was rich and famous.
by TJ Spyke June 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT
I can't believe she might get away with breaking the law. She knew downloading and sharing songs were wrong and illegal but did so anyways.

Anybody who supports criminals like Thomas need to really shut up. If she didn't willfully break the law then she wouldn't be in trouble to begin with.
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by scoates2482 June 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT
It isn't just the point of whether she was breaking the law (which is geared not towards starving artists like some would like you think) but the disproportionate penalty.
by Dalkorian June 22, 2009 10:07 AM PDT
You know nothing of which you speak. Look up "peer-to-peer" technology and try that argument again.
by scoates2482 June 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
I don't share music on-line but if any of my friends wanted to copy all the music I have on my hard drive or on cd I would let them. Same in reverse. Who's going to stop me?

Come on! I DARE you..............
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by scoates2482 June 21, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
For crying out loud, people have been recording each other's record albums and tapes and cds since forever... Not to mention recording songs from the radio (I would owe several million $$s just based on my 16th and 17th years of life, if this were the way of the world back then). What a joke. As are the the supposed "defenders of right" on this thread.
by moviegeek65 June 21, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
Everybody has burned a copy of a CD or cassette(if you're old enough) but there's no way to track that, the defendant shared 1702 songs over the internet which is easy to track by her IP address.
by Dalkorian June 22, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
There goes moviegeek again, proving without a doubt s/he has no clue what "peer-to-peer technology" means.
by Unkown2u June 21, 2009 3:15 PM PDT
Ok the way I see it is ...she was in possession of stolen material... is downloading the crime? I think not, as I understand the copyright material, its the changing of the format that was the crime...like copying a page out of a book...you can't...without permission....perhaps the industry should provide the format people want.

Unless she changed the format I don't think she committed a crime...but may have been in possession of stolen material.
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by jtjt145 June 21, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
The word RIAA brings the word associations: GREED, MALICIOUSNESS and PARASITE to mind.
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by Admirable June 21, 2009 5:31 PM PDT
Award is disproportionate to the violation! If someone violates a civil law the fine should be no more than the cost of damages by the accused. In short the fine should be commensurate with the violation.

Why are not are tax dollars being used to fine and arrest the ******** that recently brought the whole country to the brink of financial ruin?

Something is wrong in a country that levels a judgment this harsh on one individual violator for a minor technical infringement of copyright law and ignores the looting by congress the bankers and wall street!
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by Admirable June 21, 2009 5:58 PM PDT
This award is disproportionate to the violation! If someone violates a civil law the fine should be no more than the cost of damages by the accused. In short the fine should be commensurate with the violation.

Why not use our tax dollars to fine and arrest the assclowns that recently brought the whole country to the brink of financial ruin? I don't see a long line of thieving Wall Street fat cats and blood sucking Bankers headed for prison or bankruptcy. Why not divert some federal resources to important relevant issues for the good of all citizens like prosecuting some of the bankers or brokers involved in bankrupting the whole country!

Something is wrong in a country that levels a judgment this harsh on one poor individual violator for a minor technical infringement of copyright law and ignores the looting by congress the bankers and wall street!
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by hark64 July 2, 2009 4:13 AM PDT
Artists are a product, just like a can of corn. You are sold the product by big business, just like an iphone. They inundate you with the selling and tell you what to like. Then you buy it. The radio stations that play the music, big business again, are also selling you a product. You have been brainwashed so long you don't even realize it anymore. That's why people like Britney, Madonna, Michael Jackson, et. al. are successful. You are brainwashed and don't know the difference. Most of the population, basically, are sheep being led around by the man.
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by Altotus July 11, 2009 10:16 AM PDT
My understanding as far as the state of Ohio is that a default judgment can be obtained and the judgment cant be eliminated by bankruptcy but I am not a lawyer just a stupid sheep citizen.
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