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Comments on: Reports: DOJ steps up Google Books settlement probe

Justice Department sends formal requests for information to publishers involved in the settlement, possibly signaling the agency's opposition.

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by LilySpark01 June 9, 2009 9:20 PM PDT
THey dont see my book which was just published as commercially availiable. Thats Rubbish. Its in Bookstores now!
Sincerly Lily Sparkletoon
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by gerrrg June 9, 2009 11:18 PM PDT
I guess what this means, is that both the Author's Guild and the AAP can't speak for their constituency after all. Which kinda makes you wonder why Congress rolled over for RIAA and the MPAA, when we know that there are independent voices that are opposed to the DMCA.
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by faceless128 June 10, 2009 1:22 AM PDT
it always amuses me to see people still living in the stone ages thinking that making it harder to find their work is a good thing.
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by henebry June 10, 2009 2:47 AM PDT
As a scholar who places the value of knowledge and learning above the copyright, I'm amazed at the good work Google is doing and at the resistance it's encountering. When I look for an academic publisher, I want one that will make my work more readily available. In future, those will be the books that get read and cited, not the snippet view ones.
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by Setai June 10, 2009 4:14 AM PDT
What's the problem here, in general ? The way I see it Google is doing a great job here, especially for students. I remember from my college times in Europe, that often we had to search old or unaccessible books , with very limited amount of copies and none in print. With this, Google could significantly help with education, especially for non English speakers.
One thing that worries me a bit is that it's yet another thing controlled by the single most valuable corporation in the world ... but that's a topic for a completely different discussion.
Thanks for the post!
John
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by istill316 June 10, 2009 6:21 AM PDT
Yet that's exactly the point, and not a different discussion at all! No single company should be given the rights to so much.
Google makes all of its money by advertising on other people's creations: a rather lame, morally questionable business plan, if you ask me!

As for "opt-out" deals, I think they should be illegal. It's absurd that anybody, let alone Google, could claim the right to do anything, as long as the people who's products are stolen don't speak up. It's a major power grab by Google, and would be successful if not enough authors did speak up; just like search, they could become so big and all-encompassing that it could be near suicide to not participate. That's called having a monopoly, and called extortion.
by timothywmurray June 10, 2009 6:57 AM PDT
Harvard is not participating in the Google book scan project, at least not for books covered by the settlement.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=524989#
@henebry you are completely correct. Thanks for posting the comment I agree completely.
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by stevenmusil June 10, 2009 9:03 AM PDT
Harvard University was one of the first participants announced in the Google Book scan project in 2004. For more information on the Harvard project, see this Harvard Library FAQ:
http://hul.harvard.edu/hgproject/faq.html
by aintnorainbowdorothy June 10, 2009 8:09 AM PDT
All I have to add is it's about time Google got a little of whart Microsoft has had to go through. Hopefully the DOJ will go after other parts of that monopolistic entity. Good for people of the world, bad for Google, which is a good thing.
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by HeartofHistory June 10, 2009 11:15 AM PDT
Locking up orphan works benefits no one except, perhaps, the occasional used / antiquarian bookseller. And often a book I'm looking for isn't available anywhere for sale and the only copy in my state is stored in a university library storage facility which I can't access.

How many authors would want their work so hidden away?

The Google settlement at least gave these works a chance to once more be read AND for their authors (or heirs) to receive some remuneration.

Right now, an author gets NOTHING from any book that's sold through a used book dealer (in the US). And non-academic readers often get nothing to read, either.

What other company or agency is going to step up and offer to do what Google has?
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by tgrenier June 10, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
Is it fair to say that libraries do the same thing Google is trying to do? Make books available to the public for free. I consider my self pro library and pro author compensation. Perhaps I am conflicted.
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