Comments on: Six months later, no ISPs joining RIAA piracy fight

Internet service providers were supposed to provide the music industry with a new, powerful line of defense against illegal file sharing. It hasn't yet worked out that way.

[Renegade Knight]

Explicit Wirtten participation via an agreement? Maybe not. Unofficial? I'm aware of at least one ISP who does.

[derik123derik123]

i hope Mitch Bainwol gets hit by a bus! then eatin by dogs. (someone records it happen) then people pirate that video! ha! *******!

the pirate bay ftw
mininova ftw
you will never silence or stop us!

[stalker6recon]

If you have not heard yet, pirate bay is turning into a pay site, they are about to lose all their business, and another will replace them. I love that site, but the same content is found on the hundreds, if not thousands of other sites. Goodbye pirate bay, your new CEO is a moron, and will destroy that site. Just like yahoo destroyed musicmatch jukebox, another reason I don't like these companies, I bought the lifetime upgrade, only to have yahoo buy the software, destroy it, then discontinue it, so much for customer service.

in the end

Pirate bay, blows
yahoo, blows
and the RIAA can go twist in the wind.....................................

[wizardb]

First it's no piracy RIAA and their ilk have cooped a term that is wholly inappropriate for what is being done at worst this is a minor copyright infraction piracy involves personal danger and the threat of death or injury,this misuse is purposeful in that it makes it sound evil and what it really is is peopletaking on a dinosaur who doesn't understand it's dying quickly ,if the majority of what was produced wasn't utter garbage and was reasonably priced we would buy it eg. Nine Inch Nail album Ghost I gladly shelled out $5 for a copy as the band was getting the money not some company that's only concern is ripping off the public and the bands.It's time RIAA dies and bands can make money from producing their music,refuse to buy any CD's or DVD'sa that are not Indy until the MAFRIAA is dead!!!

[pentest]

Plus Ghosts is licensed under a creative commons license.

[darfjono]

if the MAFIAA die, nothing of value will be lost. i will not pay for sounds or pictures no matter what they do. paying for ANYTHING on the internet is such a joke.

[techie2479]

The last paragraph of this article says it all: "the RIAA looks hysterical" - they don't know how to deal with the problem, and everything they've tried so far hasn't worked. Sue everyone? Too expensive. Strong arm ISP's? Not enough leverage.

Do I hear Adagio for Strings?

[Sandesk]

On behalf of Samuel Barber, thanks for the shoutout techie2479!

[rcrask]

It is not the duty, obligation, or job of an ISP to enfore Copyyright issues for anyone, let alone the RIAA. As a CEO of a regional ISP, I can say without hesistation we would not take ANY action for RIAA. If they had a court order for us to shut down a customer, we would take every legal action stop their interference in our business. We are not going to do their dirty work for them.....

[Rorshack60031]

In addition to all the good comments already made, such as:
- It's Copyright infringement, not theft, etc.
- it's been around a long time since before CD's, computers and the web.

I'd pay $5 a month for unlimited access to file sharing.
It should be noted, there are songs out there on file sharing systems, which are not distributed anymore, sold no where. Old Jazz for one. And, the crap we put up with, the viruses, mislabeled songs, etc. wrong versions, wrong artists, I'm not even talking about the probably bad files planted by the RIAA, heck, kids can't spell now-a-days, hate to sound old, but it takes a lot of work to hunt down a song you want, but we do it. And then get called thief?s. Heck I come across analog stuff from the 1930's, scratchy and all. I've made my own mp3's off vinyl, don't want to profit from it, but they are not available anywhere else. And I'm to go to prison for that? Come on, we loan paperback books to friends and sell them at garage sales, record CD's from local libraries and audio streams. What's HD radio but another perfect digital stream to sample music on? Take jukeboxes out of bars and bowling alleys, stop Musak, and then we'll talk, if you really want to turn off all avenues of getting exposed to new artists. I have to say, sometimes doing a random search for a song or artist, I find new artists I've never heard. Being an older person, I'm not buying a lot of music no-a-days, since the industry really does not cater to my tastes anyway.
I also can NOT find local artists and more fringe artists on file sharing systems, and so THOSE tend to get the few dollars I do spend on music media now-a-days. There are so many work-arounds that keep popping up each time a new method is placed in front of us. Heck, sometimes you just want to hear a song you know you own, but can't find the CD, or want to hear an old song for the lyrics, cause you heard it in a movie or what not, or want to try out some other songs, from the same artist. Amazon, Rhapsody, tunes, they are all fine, but we can get access to so much more, so quick, versions of the same song, by different artist, done live, etc, it's quick overview. I have so many songs which I just downloaded and listened to once, it's amazing. Never would buy it. I like to see all songs for one artist, and see which one has the most copies out there, and then sample that one, as, if there are that many copies out there, it's the one most people consider the best work by the artist. With all it's blemishes and warts, why can't the RIAA just go away and let us have our dorky book / tape exchange of the 21st century.

It's too bad the industry does not sit down with a few intellignet music fans who are experienced, and come up wiht a non-bidning suggestion as to how to make this work for everyone. Non-binding so those experts won't get hung out to dry by the fringe music fans who never want to pay anything. Heck, I know musicians, I want them to be fairly compensated too, but by a modern interpretation of copyright law.

It'd sure be nice to go back to being a music fan or collector, and not be viewed as a thief.
Thank you.
PS Well written article BTW.

[WindWagon]

Um, the RIAA or *someone* IS INDEED working with (at least) Earthlink...as I got a 3 hour call last month talking about a mysterious report and some woman telling me to stop the downloads I had going 'right now'...when my computer wan't even on! She kept telling me that even though there was no limit to downloads I was somehow downloading too much and they thought I was illegally downloading which OF COURSE I wasn't. Not when they're charging $10,000 a song are you kidding!

""You partially right, we had dual cassette players, VCRs, even cd / dvd burners and recorders before the internet became so popular - but it was not PIRACY. It was entirely legal to use those means to copy, share, and publicly play media. "

My understanding is that:
".... burning a copy of CD onto a CD-R, or transferring a copy onto your computer hard drive or your portable music player, won?t usually raise concerns so long as:
The copy is made from an authorized original CD that you legitimately own
The copy is just for your personal use. It?s not a personal use ? in fact, it?s illegal ? to give away the copy or lend it to others for copying."

From bottom of page here at the RIAA site:
http://www.riaa.com/physicalpiracy.php?content_selector=piracy_online_the_law

[Renegade Knight]

In the era of cassettes giving your buddy a mix tape was fair use and it held up in court. I have no doubt a mix CD would also fall under fair use. Somewhere between a few friends and available to everone on the planet it crosses the line to copyright infringment.

[MattB5004]

The RIAA needs to understand that people will always find a way to share the things they enjoy. Once they accept that fact they will see that it actually helps the industry. I've found many new bands whose records I've bought from first listening to them from pirated downloads.

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