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The four men behind the popular file-sharing site are accused of helping millions of Internet users illegally download protected movies, music, and computer games.

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by rethinkit3times February 16, 2009 3:54 PM PST
TO :: ""MythicalMe"" Or #3

I Have To Say That I Truly Dislike Sites That Ask To Register Just To Allow A Stupid Comment...Cavemen Mentality To My Oppinion. But I Did. Simply To Reply To You...'N' Your Ignorant, [Maybe Arrogant?] Comment.


To Begin With...I'm An "Artist." 'N' A Musician To Be More Specific.

So Before You Even Begin To Roll Out Your MEANINGLESS RANT OF ISH, Think Twice...That's If You Are Capable Of Doing It. Obviously You Already Lack The Knowledge. 'N' Whoever Has It. Will Definitely Notice It....'N' Maybe Calmly Laugh [In Silence] About U...?

Please Do Yourself A Favor 'N' Let Those Who Truly Know Speak The Truth...[Instead Of Trowing A Bunch Of Speculation] Meanwhile Open Ur Ears 'N' Learn.

...I Don't Have To Write A Book Nor A Speech To Prove The TRUTH Of This Matter.
NIKKI SIXX [From Motley Crue] Has Done It Already...

1 : Stop By Any Book Store 'N' Grab A Copy Of His Book ["The Heroin Diaries"] For Five Minutes

2 : Go To Page> 211 [Continued From July 7TH]
That Will Be Enough To Make U "MythicalMe" Look Like A Tool.


The Pirate Bay...? How Many Times They Have To Do Pointless Acts Against Them To Lear That They Won't Stop Unpaid Downloads, Replicas, Etc?

How Many More Years Does The Stupid Record Industry Need To Learn That They 'R' Outdated...?
That Nobody Wants A Stupid CD.
That Their Business Model Is From 2 Centuries Ago...
That Their Time Is Up...
That Ppl Have The Money 'N' The Ultimate Word...
That They Were The Ones Who Pissed Off Not Hundreds But Millions Of Ppl Not From One Nation But From Arround The World By Using Their Oppression Via RIAA...

We Are All Feed Up With U...And I Hope That U Waste The Last Resources [Savings] Fighting The Ppl Who Put The Money In Ur Pockets Untill The Day U Fade Out For Good.

Erase The Pirate Bay...Another Website Will Emerge
U Killed Napster 'N' There Was: "Grokster, Kazaa, WinMX, Morpheus, Bearshare, Name It."
U Killed Suprnova 'N' There Was: "Demonoid, TPB, IsoHunt, SeedPeer, TorrentReactor, Name It."

If U Kill Joost There Will Be MiniJoost.
If You Kill Pandora, There Will Be Myantdora.
If U Kill Utorrent, There Will Be Vuzee, 'N' Streamlucie.
Please Kill Bit Torrent...I Can't Wait To See Te Next Maravell That Will Emerge Because Of That.

:::::U CAN'T STOP EVOLUTION...NO MATTER HOW MUCH $$$ WASTE...:::::
IS NOT LIKE A WAR...GET IT TROUGH UR THICK SKULL.

...A Stupid Corporation Fighting Against The Planet Earth....lmao.
Have You Stopped To Look At The Numbers???
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by Balfor February 16, 2009 7:50 PM PST
Why should movie actors and musicians make such an obscene amount of income as opposed to any other professional? Shouldn't their incomes be more in line with that of other working stiffs? The 50 Million per movie paid to Brad Pitt or the 70 Million dollar advance paid to Coldplay could have been used to develop other, newer talent -- giving others a chance to work in the entertainment industries on a relatively sustainable income (rather than starving/unheard of) as opposed to a select few popular icons.

As well, why should one company like Microsoft make such an insane profit for what is essentially a rather mediocre, bug-riddled software suite? They have the cheek to charge hundreds of dollars for their software while getting THE PUBLIC to do all their product beta-testing!

I think that the internet and file-sharing in general have become the 'great leveler' -- bringing a level of equality to the entire array of social/economically disparate peoples.

Incredible advances paid to actors and artists of often relatively dubious talent, heavily-marketed by studio fatcats and the tight-knit, wealthy kabal of record labels could support thousands of struggling, equally talented artists -- with the added benefit of bringing to light talent we might never get to see/hear otherwise.

I think these guys are heroes -- they have helped us all expose each other to more choices, and they are setting the standards and raising the bar for 21st business.

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by 3rdalbum February 16, 2009 8:30 PM PST
Pffft. If The Pirate Bay goes down, somebody else will start their own tracker and search service called The Pirate Bay Two, and host it in Sealand or one of those little island nations. I first heard about The Pirate Bay from news stories about attempts to shut it down; so I reckon they've having a very busy day today and will continue to do so for weeks!

Good luck to them. If they lose, we could start to see web search engines and directories being prosecuted for linking to websites that contain copyrighted images, for instance.
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by chobe57 February 17, 2009 1:34 AM PST
piracy isn't disgusting, but the world is...
800 million people will go to bed hungry tonight
The US supports dictators, giving them money to 'fight terrorism', whilst at the same time claiming to champion democracy.
Millions do not have access to clean water
close to 1000 people die from HIV/AIDS in ONE country in Africa every day
Millions of people have no access to education, and no hope for the future

But the full force of the law is descending on some Swedish guys who offer free music
Why? Because Hymie and his buddies at the RIAA have had it so good for so long, they have become like Robert Mugabe, just the thought of losing it ever is anathema.
The problem is lawyers will do anything for money, especially in the US.
Lincoln would turn in his grave.
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by Willie Winkie February 17, 2009 5:57 AM PST
I LOVE TPB!!! Thanks to them, I have been able to more than offset the cost of a broadband connection by downloading all the free movies, software, music and book I want. Its not a "break-even" month if I don't grab at least $60 worth of content. Since my company has chosen to freeze my wages and emasculate the match to my 401K, this site becomes even more important to maintaining my standard of living. LONG LIVE THE PIRATE BAY!!!
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by jeffreytrigger February 17, 2009 10:56 AM PST
For the people that think Radiohead's In Rainbows download scheme was a financial success, note only 38 percent of the downloads had any money attached. That means 62 percent of the downloads were free. If given the choice people will take it for free.

Two I also have a major problem shelling out 10 to 17 dollars for an album if the artists, producers, mixers, and engineers are going to receive such a small profit. Perhaps if the record labels weren't so interested in spending millions of dollars promoting s#!t music, and actually focused on putting the product out there (these promotions bleed down too radio and television), and I mean all of their product, not just the newest jailbait teen in a bikini, perhaps we could see a rebirth of music.
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by Gromit801 February 17, 2009 10:59 AM PST
I would absolutely love to see what would happen, if music went back top vinyl. No more CD's. No more online stores like iTunes.

Every last flipping bit of complaining in here has one underlying truth: I want what I want, and I don't want to pay for it, so I will come up with all kinds of bilge to justify it.
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by Balfor February 17, 2009 5:52 PM PST
Hehe -- the point is now moot -- all the charges have just been dropped -- thrown out of court.

Cool!
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by David Eaton Productions February 17, 2009 9:27 PM PST
According to this, only some of the charges were dropped...

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/02/17/business/EU-Sweden-Pirate-Bay.php
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by Constable Odo February 18, 2009 9:51 AM PST
But the site doesn't host the files, so why take the site down. Besides there's always the premium newsservers which have a lot of those files, plus the various eDonkey/eMule sites and the growing number of RapidShare file sites. Many people still go to the movies, but a few of us like to sit home and watch them for free. Yeah, stealing is wrong. But that didn't stop all the various countries in Europe from waltzing into some other country and take their land in the name of the king or queen and turn the people into slaves and then bust a move to America and stealing the land from the native Americans by saying they weren't using the land in a proper fashion, anyway.

Yup, I enjoy watching free movies, I'm a damn thief and I'm guilty. There, I've said it. I'm not in denial. The Europeans stole the land of my forefathers and now I'm taking it back, one or two movies at a time on a daily basis. If they would just put all the movies up on some streaming site for free, I wouldn't bother to download them. Unfortunately some of the streaming sites video quality sucks and the quantity of selections aren't much better.

So no matter what they do to those Swedish guys, it's not gonna stop file sharing. It'll just pop up in some other form. Theft has been going on since Adam stole the fruit off the tree in the Garden of Eden. The temptation to steal is just too great to put a stop to. I'd like to see if North Korea decided to host some file sharing site and what anybody could do to stop them.
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by AlienEric February 18, 2009 10:33 AM PST
There is no use suing these people. By the time it's over, another 100 sites will open up and take over its market share. These people need smart intelligent people like those from http://www.mobtwo.com/ that knows the industry and how to make money off it, rather than simply waste their time and money going into silly court cases.
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by jrg82 February 18, 2009 3:57 PM PST
Leave these guys alone!
There is nothing good in all of this. Can't we all share along ? ? :P
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by stoptalking February 19, 2009 3:31 AM PST
Just let TPB do their jobs, well done TPB... we always supporting u, keep good work
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by DailySpecial February 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST
These associations (MPAA/RIAA) have yet to overcome the basic inherent problem with laying blame for copyright infringement on torrent tracker site owners. Pirate Bay, among others, simply allows for a centralized location for advertising torrents, itself not a crime. Bit Torrent technology is not a crime, nor is sharing them, or facilitating a bulletin for advertising them. Prostitutes put out ads in the San Francisco Chronicle Newspaper, so does that make the newspaper liable for what may or may not result because of that advertisement? Can you then make a case to take down The SF Chronicle? They can't be held responsible.

Pirate Bay has nothing to do with whether or not those torrents are legal or how legal is even parsed in definition over borders. In fact, they presume they are legal torrents and explicitly, in their TOS, state the torrents are required to be legal. Because of the volume and resources required to monitor torrents in question is impossible to regulate or control, that doesn't mean the MPAA/RIAA can make a legal case to throw the "baby out with the bathwater", and credibly vilify The Pirate Bay for the actions of a few.

They know this, and yet pathologically continue to go after these tracker sites with the same fallacious arguments, and baseless charges.
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by DailySpecial February 19, 2009 1:30 PM PST
These associations (MPAA/RIAA) have yet to overcome the basic inherent problem with laying blame for copyright infringement on torrent tracker site owners. Pirate Bay, among others, simply allows for a centralized location for advertising torrents, itself not a crime. Bit Torrent technology is not a crime, nor is sharing them, or facilitating a bulletin for advertising them. Prostitutes put out ads in the San Francisco Chronicle Newspaper, so does that make the newspaper liable for what may or may not result because of that advertisement? Can you then make a case to take down The SF Chronicle? They can't be held responsible.

Pirate Bay has nothing to do with whether or not those torrents are legal or how legal is even parsed in definition over borders. In fact, they presume they are legal torrents and explicitly, in their TOS, state the torrents are required to be legal. Because of the volume and resources required to monitor torrents in question is impossible to regulate or control, that doesn't mean the MPAA/RIAA can make a legal case to throw the "baby out with the bathwater", and credibly vilify The Pirate Bay for the actions of a few.

They know this, and yet pathologically continue to go after these tracker sites with the same fallacious arguments, and baseless charges.
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by Honestypays February 20, 2009 5:48 AM PST
Not so hypothetical situation:
Say you lose a job at one of the thousands of film/record/software companies (out of work people already run into millions in this recession). Sites like Pirate Bay destroy not one but countless industries in the entire chain of companies that work with them. There are thousands of businesses that are affected when one major goes down. Even newspapers and related industries to them are all part of the huge ENTERTAINMENT WORLD INDUSTRY that is a complex and busy world. The online service YOU use is even affected every time someone puts up a site to give away the money you pay that is intended for the company that needs it to protect the chain that feeds it. Don't forget that companies born purely out of the investment from the majors are also in the chain. Where do you think the money Film/Music and Software companies puts INTO companies that work with those companies comes from?

So when you say "any kind is meant to be shared" and "the more you givbe the more you get" then pray that when you turn up for work on Monday that you do not get told "sorry but we haev to ask you to go due to lack of sales" Who do you blame for that? If you are one of the THOUSANDS of companies in the entertainment world then you need to go looking for any area that is taking your income in HUGE amounts at a point source.

Why do you think they called themselves PIRATE Bay?

But you need a job, right. Your family has to eat, right? We are in RECESSION. There are roughly a thousand people like you looking for the same job. So you decide that setting up your own business might work. Hey software is a good route, right? At home. Easy hours. Sadly, Pirate Bay will offer a service to take your hard-earned work and provide the means to give it away to anyone for nothing.

So are Pirate Bay and sites like them, born out of greed or freedom of liberty? What do you believe in? The owners of Pirate Bay and their word or their bank accounts? Think. How do the owners of Pirate Bay feed themselves? Lets see. In less than ten years with the MILLIONS of incomes that the owners of Pirate PAY are already accumulating in their offshore bank accounts (trust their greed, they have many accounts already), they will not hesitate to laugh while they sip their champagne on their yachts sticking their finger up at the system that made them rich. YOU.

Back to today. Supposing you are the court in Sweden Supposing you motion to join with the European Court System and the US Judicial System and get granted an international order to seize peoples computers. Supposing the courts begin looking at all the emails they have been sending and who they have been talking to as evidence of their 'aiding and abetting' criminality. It will not happen? You need to look at the landmark cases that ARE happening in the US today and now. Try telling your unqualified opinions to the people sitting in jail today with 300,000 dollar fines round their necks. They will pay for ever for copyright infringement because distributing illegal work is a CRIMINAL offence.

The point is that unless you STOP downloading the pirate junk, protect youselves and your families and wake up and smell the coffee it might be too late when the next level comes. Because anyone who does not want a police state should think if they contribute to the need for there to be one in the first place.

ITS YOUR WORLD. DON'T PIRATE IT. PROTECT IT.
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by dudelookslikeachimp February 22, 2009 2:21 PM PST
Current network and studio funding models are doomed.

Copyright enforcement is no longer practical in technical and legal costs. Too many people do not want it and are able to break it and distribute.

Future Video (movie/TV) will rely on Internet fundraising from the public PRIOR to production. But unlike PBS, commercial video will allow the public to put money against specific actors, directors, genre, basic plotlines, and combinations of the same -- as well as specific projects.

The funding public will be given powers previously reserved to executive producers and studio boards. Ranking and veto over auditions for specific key roles. Basic costume decisions for expensive costume dependent productions. Insight into cost tradeoffs (certain actors may already be paided for this type role by another fund).

Lots of legal issues to resolve for special situations. Enforcing the offered terms for which fund were collected. What to do with funds for dead actors,directors, and writers...probably a ranked vote to transfer to divide funds to next most similar actor & actor-genre combinations
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by jonweg March 2, 2009 2:03 PM PST
i hope pirate bay wins aswell. i mean if office 2007 pro didnt cost $800.00, which is completely retarded in my opinion, i would purchase it. but no, companies like Adobe, and Microsoft are making their products almost impossible for the average person to buy with out getting a small bank loan! Adobe and microsoft bring the piracy of their software on themselves. if they lowered the price it wouldn't be worth downloading any more and they would probally make more money because of it.
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by CopyRightKillers March 4, 2009 11:09 AM PST
I am confident that thepiratebay will win this battle. If there are any artists that read this, then they should create a picture for thepiratebay to display on their homepage to commemorate this historical event. I had an idea of a Copyright symbol with a crown on it with the words "ThePirateBay" on the crown. Or a Cartoonized picture of on of thepiratebay creators tearing up a document that said "Lawsuit" on it.
I have been copying digital media since before there was even the idea of "Pirating". I'm talking about the early 80's. This is not something new, it won't go away! Sure thepiratebay has made pirating much easier and accessible, but you should have seen the intricate ways that we networked computers, and shared software back in the day. Thank you piratebay!
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by Dico31 September 16, 2009 6:11 PM PDT
Piracy will always be, people will be always sharing among themselves. I have never use Pirate Bay more are less and i end up got the latest movies and such from friends in my neighbourhood. The only illegal tendency is that it is over the internet where everyone can get a hold of anything.
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