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Comments on: An end to the Google bonus fairytale?

Google employees used to fairytale-like cash bonuses on the north side of $20,000 will have have to put up with a cell phone this year.

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by kcotham December 22, 2008 6:10 PM PST
Awww, poor little Google employees. That bonus of $20,000 is not much less than I make in a year. Oh wait, that was before I got laid off. They're lucky they're getting anything, let alone having a job in the first place!!
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by Cheetahjab December 22, 2008 6:21 PM PST
agreed.. be happy to have a job.
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by dcmichie December 22, 2008 6:30 PM PST
I wonder how many Google employees already had a G1.
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by karpenterskids December 23, 2008 8:26 AM PST
Hey, they could at least sell it on ebay...
by rapier1 December 22, 2008 6:38 PM PST
When employees are used to receiving X amount of money each year as a bonus it ends up being expected and counted upon compensation. Not getting it, especially with no warning, must have come as blow to quite a number of employees. Sure, they are happy they have their jobs but would anyone reading this really be happy if his happened to them? I know quite a few people this has happened to and *none* of them are pleased or even especially sanguine about it.
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by camberiu December 22, 2008 6:50 PM PST
Here are some FACTS:

1) Google never gave out $20K xmas bonuses. The average in the past was of about $1000 per employee.

2) Employees received an unlocked version of the G1 phone. That unlocked version retails for about $499, not $179 as mentioned in this article.
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by Sporlo December 22, 2008 8:37 PM PST
"but it's been customized to "work anywhere in the world" on the carrier of their choice (Google estimates its value at $400)."

Exactly what you said (still $99 off but much closer). Read closely next time.
by businesscontacts December 23, 2008 3:54 AM PST
It is funny how americans are so self centered. "but it's been customized to "work anywhere in the world" " They seem to forget that it is the other way around, the HTC Dream has been customized to work on the USA under the name T-Mobile G1. Google is just giving their employees the non-crippled version.
by myles taylor December 23, 2008 8:39 AM PST
@businesscontacts
Everyone in the world is self-centered, unless they are forced to not be for some reason.
by The_Outsider_409 December 22, 2008 6:58 PM PST
It's Android is not replacing the 20K+ yearly performance based bonus, but the 1K Christmas gift. Get your facts right, please.
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by bsharkey December 22, 2008 7:13 PM PST
$20k? CASH? PER YEAR? dream on Googlers... enjoy your (est) $250 phone and LIKE IT!!

people are laid off, people are finding themselves on the street or may not know where their next meal will come from, let alone a Christmas present for their kids. save your whining
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by ittesi259 December 24, 2008 11:03 AM PST
I didn't see anything in the article saying Google employees were complaining....it sounded like some stupid blogger was making fun of them instead.
by jblomquist--2008 December 22, 2008 7:19 PM PST
nice. I got laid off for Christmas. Thank god my 7 year-old is the most unselfish person I've ever known.
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by bsharkey December 22, 2008 7:25 PM PST
sorry, $400: "Sadly, despite all our best efforts, there are some countries - India, China, Brazil, Korea, Israel, Russia, Argentina, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mexico, Turkey, Kenya, United Arab Emirates, South Africa, Egypt, Chile, and the Ukraine - where even our legal team could not work their magic. Googlers in these countries will receive the cash equivalent of the phone in their December paychecks, which is about $400 USD." enjoy.
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by Craig9111 December 22, 2008 7:59 PM PST
Too bad they have to pay income taxes on the $400 phone.
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by maxman4m December 22, 2008 8:08 PM PST
Take the phone, graciously say thank you, and look for another job. But good luck, they're not out there.
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by pjhenry1216 December 23, 2008 9:35 AM PST
Why would they look for another job?
by gerrrg December 22, 2008 9:06 PM PST
Everyone should be grateful for any bonus, period.

Of course, corporate level folks across the nation, hopefully, aren't taking any bonuses while they're laying off staff. Starve yourself before you cut off others, or you'll end up losing loyalty.
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by mcholyg December 23, 2008 9:39 AM PST
Loyalty? Whatever. Corps no longer need to rely on loyalty. They've reinvested in DESPERATION for the last 7 years.
by bsharkey December 22, 2008 10:33 PM PST
"Too bad they have to pay income taxes on the $400 phone. "

if Google includes it on their W-2, sure. otherwise I'll believe it when I see it. and at that, they may just opt to list the wholesale (company cost) rather than retail price (includes advertising, overhead, salesperson's commission/salary, and markup).
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by jackdaniels08 December 23, 2008 12:04 AM PST
Are you kidding me? Any of us commenting here would be lucky to get a smart phone as a bonus! Sheesh! Look dude, if it's one thing Google is doing it's being fiscally and morally responsible and with the times. When the economy improves perhaps we'll see more bonuses. I'm sure in these difficult economic times if word got out Google was giving hundreds of thousands or millions as bonus handouts when everybody is tightening their belts and bleeding profits and revenue, I'm sure cnet would be the first one to point a critical finger at Google. It doesn't matter what Google does. Cnet just needs to dig for some dirt and even throw some dirt in Google's backyard before digging it up and cry foul and complain about it all to get eyeballs.
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by myles taylor December 23, 2008 8:41 AM PST
The thing is, I didn't get the impression that CNET was picking on Google. They were just reporting that Google bonuses were different than previous years. I didn't see any criticism or nitpicking.
by 3rdalbum December 23, 2008 1:21 AM PST
Fracking heck. I got a $200 Christmas bonus last year (more like a Christmas present), and this year my boss decided to go into liquidation and run off with $2000 he owed me in wages. Now I've got a new job, and I'm only going to get a can of beer and a bowl of chips from my employer for Christmas.

If my current employer offered me an HTC Dream for Christmas, I'd be ecstatic. The Christmas bonus is just that; a BONUS. It's not something to rely upon as part of your salary.

All y'all should just chill out. The Cnet journalist was being sarcastic, he wasn't actually saying that it was a "bummer".
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by tomws December 23, 2008 5:35 AM PST
I'm glad at least one person got the whole thing right, especially the *bonus* part. We might ought to start a Jeff Foxworthy-esque "You might be a lousy employee if..." list that includes, "you come to expect your year-end bonus as part of your salary." Here's a bold, new idea for all of those types: live within your means! You agreed to work for a certain amount of money. Don't expect any more.
by sanenazok December 23, 2008 6:17 AM PST
Everyone needs to stop the bellyaching. If I worked at Google I would have preferred the cash instead of the phone, frankly, but *** it's a freebie that should have been avoided in these times. I much rather support the people who are venting about being laid off. That's the real problem, not whether someone got a phone or not. Since people are complaining now, next time Google should hand out some candlestick phones. Ring ring ring.
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by michaelo1966 December 23, 2008 1:34 PM PST
It was a smart gift. Google employees will be seen around using their phones and that may spark interest and allow them to demonstrate it at airports, coffee shops ... places where geeks with money and time chat to other geeks w/ money and time. As more influential types see it, it may cause a cascade effect. I was just talking to somebody who closed a $2.1 million contract from what started as a discussion waiting in line to get a cup of coffee: networking in real-life still rules for PR.
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