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Viewers reportedly egged on the man, who overdosed while on live Internet video.

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by inachu November 21, 2008 5:43 AM PST
I call that the ,"VTech syndrome" people who are lacking in compassion for any regard for human life and hate their own dull boring lethargic apathetic complacent life depend on their happiness by bringing misery apon others as a quick "pick me up" to feel better about themselves as a way to have a feeling of entitlement eliteist ideology that somehow they are better than others. Just goes to show how low down their mentailty has struck rock bottom and they themselves should go see a psychologist ASAP.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 12:04 PM PST
Compassion has nothing to do with this. I care for people and such. But if someone runs up to me and yells they will kill themselves, then hell I don't care. Its your life and you have to look out for yourself first. If a person wants to die, why should I be responsbile for not stopping it (unless he intends to blow himself up and kill innocents).

And no, I don't have a dull boring lethargic apathetic complacent life. I'm just a realist who believes in personal reposnibility and not the whole "oh we have to be all compasionate for everyone and help everyone in the world, so lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya".

Grow up!
by islandsaint November 21, 2008 2:19 PM PST
Sythara...please see commentary previously posted to your inbred cousins gsmiller88, silentmiller, and davidthefat. Again...wow!
by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 6:42 AM PST
sythara cant you see we are all humans here? i dont like you because you dont care for others maybe because he is black. what are you doing here on this blog? if someone runs up to me and say they wan to kill themselves if he could be talked to I will ask what is your problem? whats troubling you. Then I will tell them there are people who lives through worst problems if you think things are bad with you there are alwys others worse of at least I try why didi this young compasoniate man have to die?
by Gabey8 November 21, 2008 6:39 AM PST
What a terrible shame. :(

If only the young man had gotten professional help for what was obviously a severe case of depression.

Anyone who's reading this and is thinking along the same lines, that maybe they'd like to end it all -- DON'T DO IT. Instead, go to your doctor, or a clergy person, or a counsellor -- go to ANYbody that can help point you in the right direction, and help get you back to the Land of the Living. There IS a way back, and you can get out from under the dark cloud without ending your life.

Nobody, nobody, NOBODY on this earth deserves to go through a bout of depression like what this young man was obviously going through. My heart breaks for him and for his family. This is just an awful shame. :(

I wish he'd gotten some kind of help. I think he'd still be here if he'd gotten help instead of giving up on himself (which, right there, is an immense sign that he was depressed). But that's what depression does -- if fogs up a person's ability to think clearly. From that letter, it seems like he didn't even SEE anymore that there were other, better solutions to stopping the pain. It's really sad.

Anybody reading this who thinks they know someone who's depressed, HELP them get help. Do whatever it takes. Depression messes up the way a person thinks, so they might need that outside help from you the way a drowning person needs a life preserver.

And if you see or hear anyone threaten to end it all, take them seriously. Period. Better safe than sorry.

Condolences to this poor young man's family and friends.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 12:08 PM PST
I wish he had gotten some kind of help too. They have suicide hotlines, they have church and many other means to seek professional advice. I feel bad for the family of this poor man. But what the hell was he thinking? Going on an online forum and announcing suicide? Seriously. This man did not want help, he wanted publicity. Plan and simple.

Everyone has been depressed at some point in life (if you haven't, then you're not alive). I'm sure everyone (at one point or another) contamplated suicide at some point too. For most it was a short thought and then logic kicked in and that was it. For others they needed and wanted help.

And the very few, who obviously have no self preservation mechanism in place, have done it and are now gone. And self preservation is the most basic instinct any living being has, therefore if they lack it then I do not want them in the gene pool breeding weakling hippies.
by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 6:16 AM PST
If you live in Britian don't go to a doctor see a priest because they the doctors think you after social security money, o furtherr just suffer in silence yes the doctors thats what they think believe you me. dontkill yourself find a way to cope, pray, find a friend someone with experience that believe you and take you for what you are. Just fight it somehow keep laughing and joking with your friends it helps.
by donatell November 21, 2008 7:24 AM PST
Because the dude was not in his right mind you idiot!! Don't call somebody else a loser because they are not in the same mind frame as you are. Suicide does come across as being a selfish act to the sane but to someone who was obiviously in lots of internal pain it seemed to be the only way out, which goes to show you he probably needed some help. What who you call a loser, Karma is a *****!
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by Dr_Zinj November 21, 2008 8:53 AM PST
What a waste.

For the young man who committed suicide, ultimately, it was his decision. I think he made his decision based on insufficient, biased information; but if you waited for total knowledge before acting, you'd never get anythinn done. Most people who attempt suicide don't really know what they are doing, and haven't explored all reasonable alternatives.

People attempt suicide because they are in emotional pain, and don't know of any other way to escape it. The key is to break them out of their current thought pattern and decision long enough to show them those alternatives. Taunting, or egging on a potential suicide will not break that pattern; as we can see in this event.

As for the people who urged this man to take his life; there should be no legal action. They have the right to their opinions, they have the right to express them. I personally think they are socially worthless trash, certainly wouldn't want to work with them or (anti-?) socialize with them. I suspect the world would miss their loss far less than we miss the loss of this young man. I am willing to change my opinion of them if they take this incident and make it a pivot point to improve their lives and the lives of people around them. At least that would make this young man's death ahve some meaning.
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by colamix November 21, 2008 9:07 AM PST
Looks like justin.tv and every mouth foaming flamer who facilitated this young man's suicide should be hauled into court. People on the internets are acting worse than animals.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 12:10 PM PST
On what charges?

How about we haul you to court for trying to impose your extremist viewes on personal freedom and personal responsibility.
by Michichael November 21, 2008 10:07 AM PST
For some odd reason I don't feel bad for this guy. I feel like it's natural selection. Granted, I'm not known for human emotion, either.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 12:11 PM PST
THANK YOU!

Finally, someone who sees the world as I do. its natural selection and power of personal responsibility. If a person has no self preservation drive in their genetic structure, then should be removed from the gene pool and let others who are capable of self preservation to take his place.
by colamix November 21, 2008 2:44 PM PST
Mental health issues are no different physical health problems. They used to lynch people with certain physical health issues and now they cure them. I guess we know which crowd you two stand with, although evolution has taken care of most of these uneducated tools.

Every single person who encouraged this young man over the edge should be hauled to court as an accessory to suicide.
by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 6:03 AM PST
you are arrogant and is only responsible for *******g up this world that's and people thats you rjob here on earth you so stupid you have no heart , no shame and no compassiion, the worst people on this earth is one with no shame and conscience and that you aright, why you here we are all compasoniate people here with real blod flowing through our veins if you need help its just a google away.
by Michichael November 24, 2008 2:37 PM PST
Colamix:

First off, let me defend my statement by pointing out I didn't say I would have encouraged him to. I just don't feel sorry for him. I lack pity, not endorse harm.

Caribspice: How is it arrogant that because I've fought tooth and nail to get to where I am, I feel no pity for somebody that has faked his death before and demonstrated that he's an attention-*****?

Once again, I would not have encouraged it, and would have been one of those trying to help him. However, I don't feel pity that he succeeded. I'm indifferent. But do tell me how not pitying people stupid enough to commit suicide means I've got no shame or "compassiion." I'd like to know, in detail, how I'm a bad person based solely on my lack of pity for a suicide.

You don't even know what I do or what my past is, but it's nice to see that you're willing to judge me based on my indifference either way of his life or death.
by mailbox001 November 21, 2008 10:40 AM PST
Reminds me of that movie Untraceable.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 12:12 PM PST
You should watch it again, maybe second time it won't.
by fdunn3 November 21, 2008 12:11 PM PST
I don't mean to be cold but this is a cold fact:

Anybody who has ever considered suicide as a way out is at risk.

No matter what the trigger is, that person will find a way.

Take my word for it, he did not need people "egging him on" that is for sure, but we wouldn't be reading about this if/when he did it at night at his home alone.
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by sythara November 21, 2008 12:20 PM PST
Exactly, he wanted publicity and not help. Some people are just too stupid to see the difference.
by islandsaint November 21, 2008 2:32 PM PST
Seriously?? You may not mean to be cold (yeah right), but you are. People are saved every day when other people give a damn and talk them out of doing negative things. Someone egging him on could have been the final straw...since there are no reports of anyone asking him to stop and trying to be a positive influence, I guess we'll never know if positive peer pressure could have helped. Thanks society! Sythara...see previous posts...I'm really surprised that you inherited opposing thumbs! I'm sure your family is so proud of you!
by dude7895 November 21, 2008 1:10 PM PST
If you want to kill yourself, go ahead. One less idiot.
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by dddouchebag November 21, 2008 1:59 PM PST
Survival of the fittest.
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by themaninthebox November 21, 2008 2:06 PM PST
I agree that the people that egged the person on should not have done that, but to think that they should be held responsible is a little extreme. Where do you draw the line? It is morally awful to think that people sat back and didn't do anything, but to actually watch what is happening and realize that it is real just might not happen. I think that if I saw this happening live, I certainly would not mock the person, but I don't know whether or not I would believe that what I was seeing was real.

So where do you draw the line? How do you rate different posts on the message boards for culpability? Furthermore, how can you say that anyone has to do something? Just because you can, does not mean that you should, or you have to or that the law requires you to. Morality might, but morality and the law are far from equal many times.
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 4:15 AM PST
The people who egged him on are the non caring people of this world, mad people, mix up, heartless people, people like those who hates the world and their neigbours for no good reason, people who gossip about others but dont understand if you gossip about them, people who like good for themselves and nothing for others etc and so on
by gump2010 November 21, 2008 3:51 PM PST
All of you who weren't watching were selfish by not watching. You could have saved his life, but you were ignorant of everything else but your own problems. Maybe you should visit every chat room and forum to monitor for these types of things. Start thinking about other people. Stop blaming everyone else that was watching at least they were there!
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 4:12 AM PST
stupidy why you here you comment is meaninless, are you the joker of this pack this is no time for jokes if you need help ask now its a possibility.
by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 7:23 AM PST
and we don't have anything else to do ?just because we here today who is going to pay us for a job well done if we do that, time is money, I dont mind though., your comment is a joke to me gump because i never heard of just in tv until yesterday on the news.
by ScaryMonkey69 November 21, 2008 5:26 PM PST
Well now that its happened, I guess we can expect to see imitators now that this kid got his name spread all over the internet. I can see it now "Hey Kids!! Impress your friends!!! Become Famous!!! Die for millions of web viewers who really dont care if you DO live or die! Die for some total stranger's amusement. "
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 4:09 AM PST
i can see what you saying myself, especially in this world we live in where people already knows people don't care about them maybe they doing it for a cause we don't understand to give this sick world a shake up who knows, we only talking about this case a man died in a block of flat years ago they ended up shoveling him out his remains, his next door neighbour flat was facing his this is world over now and claimed she knew nothing, few people cares whilst long ago it used to be a caring place to me now I can see the difference clearly I am not fooled into making this world a worse place for others though, I really am not in this evil empire, I can see how I don't wan to be and is not being sucked in by my colleagues.
by digiguy23 November 21, 2008 5:36 PM PST
This is very tragic, but I hate to say that Justin.tv has a very bad crowd. There are so many people on JTV just egging on the broadcasters with getting naked, show feet, show bra, etc, It's very hard to prevent these things, but one way is cutting down the people spamming the rooms. So far they are doing a very poor job in controlling this. Excellent broadcasters like iJustine, Leo Laporte and Dealer leave Justin.tv.
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by andeyejah November 22, 2008 3:53 AM PST
life **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** to do it!.Now he has peace at last thats what everyone wants right peace?
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 3:58 AM PST
some of these people here is talking a lot of ******** comes across as sickos individuials themselves if you coul help omeone then your living shall nto be in vain, like saying that he should kill himself if he want to had this youth life been saved and sombody took his threats seriously you never know what a great guy he would have been. I think i'ts mental illness a lot of people who think wrongly and do wrong things, whilst thinking they are right to say and do mean things to people ,I see as evil, instead of choosing to say a kind word right now you hell bent on saying thiing like"if he wants to kill himself let him" you are also on your way os f suffering mental health sooner or later if that's how you are thinking if you are not there yet to be cold and hearthless to a fellow human being is heartless and mental illness in you, to be wishing suffering on other is mental coming out of you, sooner or later no one will be able to stand you not even your working colleagues unless they think like you then its evil do as evil says. good people will see throught you and keep away you will suffer the same way this man did, He was not evil he just had a problem and did ot know how to deal with it or who else will understand, if he was evil he will take a gun and shot other people (not his familly) totoal strangers or he would be planning to hurt someone with his friends while they sleep then he was evil but thats not the case, he I really sympathise with the family may his sould rest in peace. He was a good person who did not deserve to die like this I gather the information from his letter, thats how I know.
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 5:36 AM PST
all people who tell someone they are depressed should be helped straight away that's if the person that know understand how thy might feel though or even care to care about their feelings or believe them, Oh so someone sees him in his picture on myspace with a string of girls brave kid he even mingled while suffering so that mean she is aright does it, first before people here critisize him you might have to understand what is depression and one does not always look depress while being depress, had I stared at his photos on justin tv i would say nice handsome bloke he looks aright to me, but now I hear his parents knew he was sufferingwith some kind of depression, and he even seek medical help, the doctors must have belived him because they gave him prescribed drugs, but then his illness got the better of him he gave up the fight. i think life menat nothing to him and dont matter what anyone said to him he had reach the sad stage where he might have found a way, but that does not excuse the other lonley internet users here that was egging him on. Where is their conscience there is nothing worst in life than not having a conscience sooner or later when you become an outcast of your own self inflicted wickedness you will want someone to help. I remember when I felt depressed the same people who was supposeed to help me told me I am not depressed what do they really know about me?.If a doctor tell me I am not depress if I go for help. I will develop a phobia of this human. and wonder if he is crazy person or for real. It comes to me like mistaking a poor man for a rich man?
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 5:57 AM PST
butt out you all have started eating humans already it was on the news just recently what's slightly? I got a mind of my own can't yo u see that I am not going to be influenced by people around me who live everyday on the misery of other people lives stay outside! people like you contaminate the world the whole world cant you see. instead of lending a helping hand to a fellow human being.
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by AppleSuxLeo November 22, 2008 7:09 AM PST
He must have downloaded the iPhony 2.2 bug-date.
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by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 7:11 AM PST
sythara you think you are one scholar you dunce bat, do you know what a dunce bat is? I bet you don't well google it. The man was mental commmon sense should tell you so, its the same internet drove him to do this remember. web cam and all and a lot of us that goes on these blogs are, lonely and mental to, so there will be lots more of these but I hope not.
I wish it did not happen, what a lonely world. He was a lonely boy a" person could be in a room full of people and still be lonely" loneliness is all a state of mind. I want to open a talkshop to help people if I can just by blogging I hope someone sees my email land offer me the job. i know I can help, been there done that. still there . Mental cases do all kind of stuff remember? even cutting out their friends that make them laugh and smile sometimes, they cant reason, they dont have a mind of their own , they wait for someone to live their lives for them and to tell them in his case was his demons. And the someone who tells tell sometimes dont care about them not really so they will still be in a deeper hole.
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