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Viewers reportedly egged on the man, who overdosed while on live Internet video.
Viewers reportedly egged on the man, who overdosed while on live Internet video.
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And no, I don't have a dull boring lethargic apathetic complacent life. I'm just a realist who believes in personal reposnibility and not the whole "oh we have to be all compasionate for everyone and help everyone in the world, so lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya".
Grow up!
If only the young man had gotten professional help for what was obviously a severe case of depression.
Anyone who's reading this and is thinking along the same lines, that maybe they'd like to end it all -- DON'T DO IT. Instead, go to your doctor, or a clergy person, or a counsellor -- go to ANYbody that can help point you in the right direction, and help get you back to the Land of the Living. There IS a way back, and you can get out from under the dark cloud without ending your life.
Nobody, nobody, NOBODY on this earth deserves to go through a bout of depression like what this young man was obviously going through. My heart breaks for him and for his family. This is just an awful shame. :(
I wish he'd gotten some kind of help. I think he'd still be here if he'd gotten help instead of giving up on himself (which, right there, is an immense sign that he was depressed). But that's what depression does -- if fogs up a person's ability to think clearly. From that letter, it seems like he didn't even SEE anymore that there were other, better solutions to stopping the pain. It's really sad.
Anybody reading this who thinks they know someone who's depressed, HELP them get help. Do whatever it takes. Depression messes up the way a person thinks, so they might need that outside help from you the way a drowning person needs a life preserver.
And if you see or hear anyone threaten to end it all, take them seriously. Period. Better safe than sorry.
Condolences to this poor young man's family and friends.
Everyone has been depressed at some point in life (if you haven't, then you're not alive). I'm sure everyone (at one point or another) contamplated suicide at some point too. For most it was a short thought and then logic kicked in and that was it. For others they needed and wanted help.
And the very few, who obviously have no self preservation mechanism in place, have done it and are now gone. And self preservation is the most basic instinct any living being has, therefore if they lack it then I do not want them in the gene pool breeding weakling hippies.
For the young man who committed suicide, ultimately, it was his decision. I think he made his decision based on insufficient, biased information; but if you waited for total knowledge before acting, you'd never get anythinn done. Most people who attempt suicide don't really know what they are doing, and haven't explored all reasonable alternatives.
People attempt suicide because they are in emotional pain, and don't know of any other way to escape it. The key is to break them out of their current thought pattern and decision long enough to show them those alternatives. Taunting, or egging on a potential suicide will not break that pattern; as we can see in this event.
As for the people who urged this man to take his life; there should be no legal action. They have the right to their opinions, they have the right to express them. I personally think they are socially worthless trash, certainly wouldn't want to work with them or (anti-?) socialize with them. I suspect the world would miss their loss far less than we miss the loss of this young man. I am willing to change my opinion of them if they take this incident and make it a pivot point to improve their lives and the lives of people around them. At least that would make this young man's death ahve some meaning.
How about we haul you to court for trying to impose your extremist viewes on personal freedom and personal responsibility.
Finally, someone who sees the world as I do. its natural selection and power of personal responsibility. If a person has no self preservation drive in their genetic structure, then should be removed from the gene pool and let others who are capable of self preservation to take his place.
Every single person who encouraged this young man over the edge should be hauled to court as an accessory to suicide.
First off, let me defend my statement by pointing out I didn't say I would have encouraged him to. I just don't feel sorry for him. I lack pity, not endorse harm.
Caribspice: How is it arrogant that because I've fought tooth and nail to get to where I am, I feel no pity for somebody that has faked his death before and demonstrated that he's an attention-*****?
Once again, I would not have encouraged it, and would have been one of those trying to help him. However, I don't feel pity that he succeeded. I'm indifferent. But do tell me how not pitying people stupid enough to commit suicide means I've got no shame or "compassiion." I'd like to know, in detail, how I'm a bad person based solely on my lack of pity for a suicide.
You don't even know what I do or what my past is, but it's nice to see that you're willing to judge me based on my indifference either way of his life or death.
Anybody who has ever considered suicide as a way out is at risk.
No matter what the trigger is, that person will find a way.
Take my word for it, he did not need people "egging him on" that is for sure, but we wouldn't be reading about this if/when he did it at night at his home alone.
So where do you draw the line? How do you rate different posts on the message boards for culpability? Furthermore, how can you say that anyone has to do something? Just because you can, does not mean that you should, or you have to or that the law requires you to. Morality might, but morality and the law are far from equal many times.
- by caribspice-2008 November 22, 2008 7:11 AM PST
- sythara you think you are one scholar you dunce bat, do you know what a dunce bat is? I bet you don't well google it. The man was mental commmon sense should tell you so, its the same internet drove him to do this remember. web cam and all and a lot of us that goes on these blogs are, lonely and mental to, so there will be lots more of these but I hope not.
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Showing 2 of 3 pages (109 Comments)I wish it did not happen, what a lonely world. He was a lonely boy a" person could be in a room full of people and still be lonely" loneliness is all a state of mind. I want to open a talkshop to help people if I can just by blogging I hope someone sees my email land offer me the job. i know I can help, been there done that. still there . Mental cases do all kind of stuff remember? even cutting out their friends that make them laugh and smile sometimes, they cant reason, they dont have a mind of their own , they wait for someone to live their lives for them and to tell them in his case was his demons. And the someone who tells tell sometimes dont care about them not really so they will still be in a deeper hole.