Comments on: College freshmen less interested in tech

Percentage of incoming freshmen saying they'll major in computer science drops significantly.

[unknown unknown]

Out source the jobs and create the preception that...

Indian IT professions can fill demand and for less this is what happen people get discouraged. Why spend tons of money and four years to get job that according to the media is being filled over seas.

[unknown unknown]

Out source the jobs and create the preception that...

Indian IT professions can fill demand and for less this is what happen people get discouraged. Why spend tons of money and four years to get job that according to the media is being filled over seas.

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that absolutely sucks

it truly does

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that absolutely sucks

it truly does

[DaClyde]

CS degree vs industry certs

I would like to see someone research how many of those potential computer science students decided against the 4 year degree and just went for some sort of IT certification instead. It's only relatively recently that many 4-year schools began offering CS degrees in something OTHER than programming, IC design or graphics. I bet there's been a pretty good jump in enrollment at 2-year schools offering networking courses while interest in 4-year courses drop.

[DaClyde]

CS degree vs industry certs

I would like to see someone research how many of those potential computer science students decided against the 4 year degree and just went for some sort of IT certification instead. It's only relatively recently that many 4-year schools began offering CS degrees in something OTHER than programming, IC design or graphics. I bet there's been a pretty good jump in enrollment at 2-year schools offering networking courses while interest in 4-year courses drop.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Not in this country

Many projects quoted to me are max'd out at $200.00
per week. Yes, that's per week! That works out to
$5.00 per hour. That is below minimum wage! I can
make more flipping burgers! Why did I go to school?

[sanenazok]

do more than one per week

duh

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Not in this country

Many projects quoted to me are max'd out at $200.00
per week. Yes, that's per week! That works out to
$5.00 per hour. That is below minimum wage! I can
make more flipping burgers! Why did I go to school?

[sanenazok]

do more than one per week

duh

[pcLoadLetter]

Not surprising

The fairly large amount of mathematics, physics, chemistry and engineering courses scare many away.

To that I say good! Not only will it insure against oversaturation and an even bigger dive in wages and job positions, it will insure that only the most passionate will perservere through an extremely demanding programing. The IT world and computting in general will benefit.

[pcLoadLetter]

Not surprising

The fairly large amount of mathematics, physics, chemistry and engineering courses scare many away.

To that I say good! Not only will it insure against oversaturation and an even bigger dive in wages and job positions, it will insure that only the most passionate will perservere through an extremely demanding programing. The IT world and computting in general will benefit.

[tsm26]

We are a nation of whiners

So many people talk of "not enough jobs", "outsourcing", "blah blah".

I am graduating in August in CS and have a full time contract web development job, plus side jobs. I didn't know anyone to get the jobs, I learned a lot on the side, entered a web competition, won, then met people and got jobs. I took one job away from an outsourced Indian company because they stunk, and they didn't care I cost more. Five of my friends are working for Microsoft and Google. There are plenty of jobs!!! I have to turn away jobs.

Maybe we should offer more and whine less. Maybe you get outsourced because you are lazy or don't offer them enough. Those companies that outsource everything will eat it later on. Stop whining!!!

[tsm26]

We are a nation of whiners

So many people talk of "not enough jobs", "outsourcing", "blah blah".

I am graduating in August in CS and have a full time contract web development job, plus side jobs. I didn't know anyone to get the jobs, I learned a lot on the side, entered a web competition, won, then met people and got jobs. I took one job away from an outsourced Indian company because they stunk, and they didn't care I cost more. Five of my friends are working for Microsoft and Google. There are plenty of jobs!!! I have to turn away jobs.

Maybe we should offer more and whine less. Maybe you get outsourced because you are lazy or don't offer them enough. Those companies that outsource everything will eat it later on. Stop whining!!!

College freshman disinterested in technology

Seeing their fathers, mothers, uncles and aunts being laid off or in constant fear of being laid off is all that is necessary to scare off the next generation. It used to be that tech workers worried about the lack of a career path after the first ten or fifteen years of employment. Now, they have to worry about being replaced by younger people in foreign countries that are cheaper and have fresher skill sets.

The solution has two components.

First, American computer language and operation system companies must quit shipping bug-invested, poorly designed tools. When the foundation is weak, the best application developer in the world is going to struggle. Older workers know better, and don't want to use the new crap. How many tens of billions were wasted on VB-based projects that crashed and burned in the 90s. The new kids didn't know any better and didn't care, so they embraced VB. The older workers knew VB was sick and have been left our in the cold.

Second, more American businesses need to re-train older tech workers, if they expect the best and brightest in the next generation to be interested in tech careers. Too many older tech workers are unemployed or under-employed right now. Forty year-old managers are not interested in fifty-five year-old programmers regardless of their previous accomplishments. Everybody can't be expected to go the management route. Even if the older tech worker has taken classes in .NET and Java, he/she can't claim experience in the newer technology until they get a chance to use it professionally. Too many CFOs and CEOs have believed the bloated promises of the tech industry salesmen and ignored the wisdom of their experienced work force.

If I had to do it over again, I would have earned a liberal arts degree instead of a Masters in IT. At least I wouldn't have to see my intelligent, highly-skilled friends being laid off and under utilized.

College freshman disinterested in technology

Seeing their fathers, mothers, uncles and aunts being laid off or in constant fear of being laid off is all that is necessary to scare off the next generation. It used to be that tech workers worried about the lack of a career path after the first ten or fifteen years of employment. Now, they have to worry about being replaced by younger people in foreign countries that are cheaper and have fresher skill sets.

The solution has two components.

First, American computer language and operation system companies must quit shipping bug-invested, poorly designed tools. When the foundation is weak, the best application developer in the world is going to struggle. Older workers know better, and don't want to use the new crap. How many tens of billions were wasted on VB-based projects that crashed and burned in the 90s. The new kids didn't know any better and didn't care, so they embraced VB. The older workers knew VB was sick and have been left our in the cold.

Second, more American businesses need to re-train older tech workers, if they expect the best and brightest in the next generation to be interested in tech careers. Too many older tech workers are unemployed or under-employed right now. Forty year-old managers are not interested in fifty-five year-old programmers regardless of their previous accomplishments. Everybody can't be expected to go the management route. Even if the older tech worker has taken classes in .NET and Java, he/she can't claim experience in the newer technology until they get a chance to use it professionally. Too many CFOs and CEOs have believed the bloated promises of the tech industry salesmen and ignored the wisdom of their experienced work force.

If I had to do it over again, I would have earned a liberal arts degree instead of a Masters in IT. At least I wouldn't have to see my intelligent, highly-skilled friends being laid off and under utilized.

[cpudrewfl]

Good.

When this genreration of IT retires there will be a shortage of IT workers. All these CEO will be crying we have a shortage of IT workers. Also we dont need the collge grads that are interested in IT just for the money and dont have a passion for the job. I enjoy my job doing IT and I do admit the pay is decent.

[cpudrewfl]

Good.

When this genreration of IT retires there will be a shortage of IT workers. All these CEO will be crying we have a shortage of IT workers. Also we dont need the collge grads that are interested in IT just for the money and dont have a passion for the job. I enjoy my job doing IT and I do admit the pay is decent.

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[207796398873175208235380528963]

http://www.alexanderbell.us/Initiative/IT.htm

This is a MUST reading for those who care about the future of American IT and our national security (see the link): http://www.alexanderbell.us/Initiative/IT.htm

[207796398873175208235380528963]

For those who care about American IT and our national security

This is a MUST reading for those who care about the future of American IT and our national security (see the link): http://www.alexanderbell.us/Initiative/IT.htm

[207796398873175208235380528963]

For those who care about American IT and our national security

This is a MUST reading for those who care about the future of American IT and our national security (see the link): http://www.alexanderbell.us/Initiative/IT.htm