Comments on: The end of India's offshore dominance?

Outsourcer Marc Hebert says the new calculation that India's offshore prospects is dimming is a misreading of the facts.

Agree

Well I m totally agree to yr statement. The potential still lies with India and continue to be for atleast nxt 6years.

Agree

Well I m totally agree to yr statement. The potential still lies with India and continue to be for atleast nxt 6years.

[EmbSysPro]

Sound Assesment - But can I make another comment.

I believe that you are correct concerning the offshoring issue; India is still a great place to find value.

But I would like to emphasize that the "high-cost U.S. resources" that many "Experts" in your field fail to fully explain is just as much a cause of the "high-cost" of living here in the U.S. rather than the perceived self-indulgence and lack of skill of the American IT worker.

Being a victim of the 2001 downsizing trend and subsequently a casualty of the offshoring phenomenon, I was initially very upset. I, like many other American IT workers had to struggle and suffered quite a bit.

I have since started my own IT business and I can better understand and relate to the bottom-line issues that senior management faces. Offshoring is a reasonable alternative in many situations.

I just wish that somewhere in the text of these types of articles, someone would have the wherewithal to mention that the American way of life is extremely expensive. And a large majority of the companies that are offshoring are doing so the sell products and services to the very same people that they have laid off.

[MilleB]

Where lies competitivness ?

Both article and comments are right and ask the following question. Where does competitivness come from ?
It seems that training software people is relatively easy and capital investment to get started is relatively small. Software tooling and PC's are extremely easy to get and standard world wide.

Intelligence is extremely well spread around the world unlike oil. Still need good education but knowledge is extremely difficult to hide in the internet days.

So low-wages and good education are attracting businesses. But why do people have low-wages ? Most often because people are forced into low-cost of living. Why?
Because they are forced into a sober life.

What if European or American programmers would chose for a different life-style ? Would they become competitive again ?

I know it's a kind of strange however it is as if : "sober life-style" is the source of "competitivness"

[EmbSysPro]

Sound Assesment - But can I make another comment.

I believe that you are correct concerning the offshoring issue; India is still a great place to find value.

But I would like to emphasize that the "high-cost U.S. resources" that many "Experts" in your field fail to fully explain is just as much a cause of the "high-cost" of living here in the U.S. rather than the perceived self-indulgence and lack of skill of the American IT worker.

Being a victim of the 2001 downsizing trend and subsequently a casualty of the offshoring phenomenon, I was initially very upset. I, like many other American IT workers had to struggle and suffered quite a bit.

I have since started my own IT business and I can better understand and relate to the bottom-line issues that senior management faces. Offshoring is a reasonable alternative in many situations.

I just wish that somewhere in the text of these types of articles, someone would have the wherewithal to mention that the American way of life is extremely expensive. And a large majority of the companies that are offshoring are doing so the sell products and services to the very same people that they have laid off.

[MilleB]

Where lies competitivness ?

Both article and comments are right and ask the following question. Where does competitivness come from ?
It seems that training software people is relatively easy and capital investment to get started is relatively small. Software tooling and PC's are extremely easy to get and standard world wide.

Intelligence is extremely well spread around the world unlike oil. Still need good education but knowledge is extremely difficult to hide in the internet days.

So low-wages and good education are attracting businesses. But why do people have low-wages ? Most often because people are forced into low-cost of living. Why?
Because they are forced into a sober life.

What if European or American programmers would chose for a different life-style ? Would they become competitive again ?

I know it's a kind of strange however it is as if : "sober life-style" is the source of "competitivness"

[mwadeeb]

Sounds like old information

This article reminded me of reading an Asian economics magazine from the mid-1970's. Interesting, but not too focused or heading towards anything more than a speculative dead-end.

[mwadeeb]

Sounds like old information

This article reminded me of reading an Asian economics magazine from the mid-1970's. Interesting, but not too focused or heading towards anything more than a speculative dead-end.

Marc Hebert, can he back his words?

Marc Hebert must not be brave enough to back his own words or he would have an email address to respond to the incorrect dribble he had posted on this fine new organization.

Marc Hebert, can he back his words?

Marc Hebert must not be brave enough to back his own words or he would have an email address to respond to the incorrect dribble he had posted on this fine new organization.

[SmBizMan]

He doesn't need to back it,

It's just true. Its basic economic theory in action...

[SmBizMan]

He doesn't need to back it,

It's just true. Its basic economic theory in action...

The new age debate

I have read so many articles from so many so called professionals and none of them seem to uplift the thought tht in the ongoing battle, India would also improvise on its ability to cut cost in the near future.

Its seems that the core of the debate is not loosing out the war of IT outsourcing or new age competitors coming up as a threat, its more about digging the jem which has established India as a reliable and affordable Outsourcing destination.

Aanywaz, none of the my comments would either be appreciated or taken heed off, as these guys would comeout time and again giving suggestions and methodologies to unroot something which is out of their scope.

The new age debate

I have read so many articles from so many so called professionals and none of them seem to uplift the thought tht in the ongoing battle, India would also improvise on its ability to cut cost in the near future.

Its seems that the core of the debate is not loosing out the war of IT outsourcing or new age competitors coming up as a threat, its more about digging the jem which has established India as a reliable and affordable Outsourcing destination.

Aanywaz, none of the my comments would either be appreciated or taken heed off, as these guys would comeout time and again giving suggestions and methodologies to unroot something which is out of their scope.

[b2bhandshake]

Interesting article

This is surely an intersting viewpoint. However, if not India, offshoring is sure to stay.. and Indians who have built epxertise in this are bound to be key players.
- Mohan babu, Author/Consultant
http://www.offshoringmanagement.com

[b2bhandshake]

Interesting article

This is surely an intersting viewpoint. However, if not India, offshoring is sure to stay.. and Indians who have built epxertise in this are bound to be key players.
- Mohan babu, Author/Consultant
http://www.offshoringmanagement.com

re: The end of India's offshore dominance?

I understand the points raised about why India is still a quality place to do business. But, I have read two articles in the past two days stating the superiority of India's capabilities, both of the articles were from people that have a vested interest in the growth of business there. China will in the next 3-5 years over take India in offshoring capabilities. This will happen because of the quality of product will be higher and the cost less. It is a simple formula. China has the infrastrucure, technical tallent, and contrary to some peoples beliefs the management capabilities.

re: The end of India's offshore dominance?

I understand the points raised about why India is still a quality place to do business. But, I have read two articles in the past two days stating the superiority of India's capabilities, both of the articles were from people that have a vested interest in the growth of business there. China will in the next 3-5 years over take India in offshoring capabilities. This will happen because of the quality of product will be higher and the cost less. It is a simple formula. China has the infrastrucure, technical tallent, and contrary to some peoples beliefs the management capabilities.

Marc has good undersanding of India

I fully agree with the points expressed by Marc. No doubt he has an interest in India as he has an office in India. The advantages, challenges etc are quite well brought out. I am sure this is as a result of his experience with India.

Ramesh Krishnamurthy

Marc has good undersanding of India

I fully agree with the points expressed by Marc. No doubt he has an interest in India as he has an office in India. The advantages, challenges etc are quite well brought out. I am sure this is as a result of his experience with India.

Ramesh Krishnamurthy

[a2lgo]

economies of scale

I agree with Marc's view, economies of scale is very strong key word in any industry. rising salary will not affect the growth in short span of 10-20 years but in long run it will definitely have an effect simillar to what happened with steel and auto industry in United states. Indian Software companies need to ba aware of that reality.

[a2lgo]

economies of scale

I agree with Marc's view, economies of scale is very strong key word in any industry. rising salary will not affect the growth in short span of 10-20 years but in long run it will definitely have an effect simillar to what happened with steel and auto industry in United states. Indian Software companies need to ba aware of that reality.