Comments on: Microsoft pulls Vista SP1 update

The company retracts a prerequisite update for downloading Vista Service Pack 1 after some customers complain of problems.

[hhemken]

Windows still better than GNU/Linux

Windows is easier! Windows gives a better customer experience! Windows is easier to set up! Printing is easier on Windows! Windows is more secure! Windows runs faster! Windows has a cooler interface! Windows is all I know! Windows came with the computer! I have no idea how to get rid of Windows! I don't even know what GNU/Linux is! Mac? What about a Mac? Can I make my Windows box a Mac? Help! Help! Help!

[wjcunning]

Ubuntu 4 U

I started building Ubuntu 7.1 boxes for folks about a month ago, and WOW, it's better than ANY OS I've ever seen. Not to mention entirely FREE. My clients are LOVING it.

Am catastrophically tired of dolling out $500 every 2 years to outfit my home with new MS OS licenses, especially when they are like Vista, which is basically unuseable for business.

Try Ubuntu, buddy. You will not be disappointed.

[bkblair]

MS Has NOT Pulled KB937287 From Auto Update

I just went into Windows Update and manually had it check for updates and low and behold KB937287 (released date 2/12/08) appeared all by its lonesome.

I promptly turned off Automatic Updates now matter how much the Vista OS hates me doing that.

[Dalkorian]

don't worry

Bkblair posted:

"I promptly turned off Automatic Updates now matter how much
the Vista OS hates me doing that."

Don't worry, M$ will turn it back on for you. They won't even
bother telling you they're doing it because, well, it's their computer
now!

[The_happy_switcher]

Ha Ha

Windows suckage continues to know no bounds and be able to reach new lows. LOL.

Get a Mac instead.

[Valdier1]

Like Leopard?

Or did you forget that it took two major patches (10.5.2) before they fixed something as basic as wireless connections dropping, requiring full reboots regularly?

How about that Time Machine still has critical problems?

Blindness is your friend.

[Dalkorian]

must be nice

It must be nice to be so far detached from reality. One question,
what kind of drugs are you on; do you see swirling colors all
around you or are there bugs on you?

I've had Leopard from the first week it was released on my work
machine. Perfect it is not, but it has been satisfying. Wireless
connections have never dropped for me, period. Full reboots are
a winblows thing, only needing to happen with major security
updates in Leopard (or QuickTime updates, those tick me off).
Time Machine has been flawless from day one, lacking some
control features I'd like but suffering nothing that could be
called "critical problems".

That is experience talking, not some mindless ranting of
someone who's never seen a Mac before. You ought to at least
check one out so you can claim to have an informed opinion.
Trust me, Bill won't even know so there is no possibility of him
whipping you for showing independent thought.

[dhawley23]

here's a reason IT pros are reluctant to roll the dice on Vista...

There's a reason IT pros are reluctant to roll the dice on Vista. This King Research report is based on a survey of over 900 IT professionals. Findings include that the majority of IT organizations are not planning to upgrade to Vista, and that a significant number of IT organizations have actually considered moving to non-Windows operating systems to avoid the upgrade.

http://www.kace.com/pdf/index_vista_survey.php

[dhawley23]

There's a reason IT pros are reluctant to roll the dice on Vista...

There's a reason IT pros are reluctant to roll the dice on Vista. This King Research report is based on a survey of over 900 IT professionals. Findings include that the majority of IT organizations are not planning to upgrade to Vista, and that a significant number of IT organizations have actually considered moving to non-Windows operating systems to avoid the upgrade.

http://www.kace.com/pdf/index_vista_survey.php

[PCTechGuy]

A rare occurrence for MS to pull software

There must have been a whole lot of people having problems with the software that was pulled because Microsoft rarely ever pulls software that "only affects a small number of customers in unique circumstances."

[grahamtriggs]

I had problems too

Got to the point of configuring the update, then BSOD with with driver unloaded without cancelling pending operations.

This left the disk unable to boot (ide driver corrupt), and had to be repaired via system restore.

It looks like this may be an issue for anyone using SATA devices in AHCI mode - or possibly at least those with an ICH9 chipset.

[rsimonson]

Enter Product Key and Install

I have had several new problems since the automatic installation of the update. One is that my MS Office 2007 programs randomly start up asking me to enter my product key. When I did this Vista tried to install Office again. I stopped the installation and rebooted. That has worked and been my only fix when this happens.

[Drpixelphd2]

unique circumstances

According to Microsoft's White: "This problem only affects a small number of customers in unique circumstances."

You mean like, Vista Users?

[GrahamSivill]

SP1 Works Fine For Me

I downloaded SP1 from the MS Developer Network as I need to evaluate any impact it might have on apps I develop and it installed on my PC (Dell Optiplex 745) in about 40 minutes to an hour last weekend. The machine had no problems and is running quite happily all this week. Performance does seem slightly better particularly on large file copies across the network to my Windows Small Business Server.

I only recently converted from Windows XP as I had been waiting for SP1 before going over to Vista. I did run the Beta and RCs of Vista on my previous machine which I built myself and it ran fine on that computer.

I only went back to XP when I got the Optiplex because a client I was developing an application for uses SQL Server 2000 and I had to run that on the same box. As Vista won't run SQL Server 2000 I had to stay with XP. I now run my old home built PC as my server (It was very powerful but way too noisy for my home office) so it runs SBS 2003 in the Garage (can make as much noise as it likes out there!) and I work on my almost silent Dell Optiplex which runs Vista superbly.

I do wonder whether some people who are complaining about the endless loop thing have been too impatient to wait for the process to end as mine did sit a while at the end and appeared not to be doing anything, but I checked my hard disk light and it was whirring away so I knew it was doing something so I just left it to finish.

I am very happy with Vista, if anything the graphics performance seems better under Vista than XP. I did turn the transparent borders off as that really bugs me and run the plain aero scheme.

[machdarw]

Fix-able

I had the same issue, but downloading the MSU from the Microsoft Download Center and manually installing it stopped the looping. I'm now running Vista SP1 without problems.

[giant_david]

Black hole

I wonder what M$ does with all those billion. Shouldn't this company be able to delivery a decent OS?

[gwailo247]

I still hold my breath every time

I try to start a game under Vista. My system is about 2 years old, I should not have to buy new hardware to run an OS. After messing around with drivers and reading forums, the only solution is a dual boot XP system. I actually laughed at myself when I started a game at XP and was surprised that it did not crash my system.

I had hoped that SP1 would fix this, but the only real difference I noticed day in and out is that the system no longer takes 45 seconds to calculate the time needed to move a 3KB file from one drive to another.

I don't care about bugs, hardware incompatibilities and everything else. I am a consumer. If you expect me to use an OS its supposed to work. If the same hardware and apps run flawlessly on XP, but my system crashes constantly under Vista, then is the hardware really the culprit?

"Buy a new computer" is not a proper tech support solution.

[justusderdv]

Works fine for me - Thanks Microsoft

KB937287 was uploaded a few days back to my Vista Home Premium on my HP laptop. I trust Microsoft and have my settings for auto update, so it wasn't till I read the article that I looked back to check, and sure enough, it's there and no hitches. Oddly enough, my system did crash later that day when I opted to update some optionals. But the beauty of Vista is that it's quite easy to restore after a crash. I get that Vista has had some rough edges, but I'm okay with that. I trust Microsoft. Call me a fool, but my notebook is on and in use 12 plus hours a day every day. I depend upon it for my livlihood and my pastimes, so: thanks Microsoft and HP!

[wbenton]

Why am I not surprised...

Why am I not surprised... let me count the ways. (* CHUCKLE *)

Will Microsoft EVER learn to release a patch that doesn't break something else that need to be either fixed, re-patched or retracted?

Walt

[gara1961]

No probs here! Oh forget I was using XP not Vista.

:-)

[mread41]

Using XP, not Vista

I'll be seeing you and alot of the rest of you with XP machines soonish for malware removals or operating system reinstalls (or hear from you anyway >.<). Don't get me wrong, I like XP, but with Spyware/Viruses/Phishing so prevalent and so many foolhardy practices amongst users; it's getting highly unlikely that XP will stay in routine use more than another year or two with it's high susceptibility. =(

[TLB Bear]

Big Problem with Update

We have Windows Vista installed on my husband's computer. The most recent update has caused his computer to keep recirculating and refusing to reboot. Problem here is that we recently moved, and have no idea where the original boot disk is. We have no way to get into his computer and we need help. Since Windows Vista screwed up his machine, it would be nice if they could also fix it!

[Whitebob]

KB937287 still vaild update from MS?

I just went into My Windows Vista Windows Update and checked the Windows Update History and low and behold KB937287 was already installed on my computer on 15 Feb 08. I would therefore conclude that it is still a vaild update that MS will push to anyone on "Automatic Updates".

[bkblair]

Not True...

KB937287 WAS pulled from MS Automatic Updates but not until Feb 25th or 26th based on what I was seeing.
You got it installed on Feb 15 before that happened.
Consider yourself lucky if things are still working for you.
I'm waiting to see a fixed version from KB before I turn back on Automatic Updates.