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Vista with the beta Service Pack 1 fails to keep pace with its predecessor in a series of productivity tasks using the Office 2007 software.
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upgrading from XP. But in the meantime it became finalized into
Vista and it's offering was less than impressive, so I went the way
of an iMac with Tiger (upgraded to Leopard) and XP (still XP) for
when I really need to run Windows apps.
Anyway, let me explain one thing about IT regarding how it fits into a business. The number-one goal for any IT department is for each and every one of their users to MAXIMIZE productivity by using IT. If you give your users a tool that actually DECREASES productivity, you're damaging your business. That's basically what upgrading to Vista will do your business. Slow boot times, budgeting RAM upgrades or complete PC replacements does NOT increase productivity. Upgrading to Vista does not make your reports look any better. Vista does not improve your email skills. Vista will not improve your network infrastructure.
Vista will not improve ANYTHING in a business!!!! The purpose of an operating system is to run applications. That's ALL it is supposed to do. The applications are the components that make your employees productive. As someone mentioned earlier, each operating system needs that killer app that sets Vista apart from anything else. Lotus 1-2-3 helped separate MS-DOS from Apple DOS 3.3. Microsoft Excel helped excel Microsoft Windows 2.0. Aldus/Adobe PageMaker and later Quark Xpress set Mac OS as the platform of choice for desktop publishers. In the last 15 years or so, we've never had that one killer app that re-enforced the use of Microsoft Windows, or allowed us to move over to something else. THAT is what Microsoft Windows Vista is lacking.
And any intelligent CIO and IT staff have picked up on this. Many businesses are faced with:
- 16-bit software that are still in-use
- Custom applications designed in-house by people who are no longer working for the company
- Hundreds of thousands of dollars in legacy peripherals - many of them very proprietary
- Training!!!! The user experience in Vista is VERY different.
And that list goes on and on... The number-one idea that pushes Vista, according to MS, is security. If they instead took their thousands of programmers and had them focus on XP instead of Vista, I believe even the security issue would have improved for XP by now.
I can truly see most businesses still running XP PCs three or even five years from now.
I agree with the people that say the job of an OS is to provide a platform of which to run your apps of. The apps should get the extra memory not the OS.
I think there is no more creativity in MS, due to the fact that they rather buy smaller companies than to invest in true research in order to provide a product that is actually worth the money they ask for.
So when you(and MS) wipe your eyes one and find that everyone has migrated to another OS that is willing to listen and provide what their customer wants, don't wonder why.
End-users aren't the same as twenty years ago when a 20MB hard drive was top of line, they have evolved since then and it doesnt take two brain cells to know that MS is $cr3wing everyone without even a courtesy reach around.
Maybe the world is ready for an OS that is just that an OS no bells, no whistles just a plain os that does what it's meant to do.
'nuf said.
You can pretty much grab Windows and install it on any machine, like any of the *nixes (or would that be *nii) or *BSD. The difference from the non-Windows OSes is that your hardware will be detected for the most part and usuable, though sometimes limited, and you can install your software that you are used to using without dealing with config files and such.
I may not like Microsoft's version of innovation (buy a company and use their technology) but the fact is that their OS is newbie-friendly enough (though not quite Mac friendly) to install on cheaper hardware (Apple needs to come down on price) and have a system that works well.
The problem with the *nixes (or *nii) and *BSDs are the newbie friendliness they lack. The problem with Apple is that it's proprietary to their hardware only. I'm sure Windows would be great if limited to certain hardware configurations.
Maybe one day Steve will open MacOS to other hardware but I doubt it because then Apple would have to support different hardware types with numerous configurations.
http://www.osx86project.org/
There exists on BitTorrent a version of Mac OSX 10.5 modified with the Brazil Patch that allows OSX 10.5 Leopard to be run on systems like Dell, HP, Compaq, Gateway, etc.
Most of those 2 million OSX 10.5 Leopard DVD sales went to PC Users who used the Brazil Patch to patch the OSX 10.5 Leopard DVD ISO into a Hackintosh version that can install on any PC with SSE3 support.
Why buy a $2000 Mac Pro when a $700 Dell will run OSX just as well with the same hardware features?
Performance-wise, specially on games, it gets close to my previous laptop that had XP Pro SP2 preloaded.
Only my previous laptop has half the RAM, 1/4th the speed, is not dual core, has a graphics card with half the memory and speed.
Also, this new laptop hangs a lot, all softwares I use has some chance of crashing, most games will crash on exit, internet conection will drop randomly, browsers will crash and loose conection randomly, task manager doesn't close stuff up, and network can't detect other computers though I can detect it with other computers running XP.
Vista is the new ME. I'm now trying to find out how I can upgrade my Vista back to XP because I'm tired of having problems with Vista.
I gave it a month and a half. No more. Such a waste of time.
These are major reasons why I'm staying with XP and moving to Ubuntu on most of my machines. Unfortunately, I need to learn and use Vista to support my clients and web visitors.
Rick
http://www.HelpMeRick.com
company. Think Different, Think Apple. ^__^
Pro: Macintosh hardware and OS.
Con: Mac fanboys
One only has to look at the responses to this story to see the quiet background Mac users edging away trying not to be mistaken for... well, fanboys.
MS needs to have their OS developers work only on Pentium 3 machines or perhaps Pentium 4 machines but nothing newer and only have 512MB of RAM to play with - that might seem extreme but you can be sure they won't launch another beached whale like Vista again. My only fear is that the idiots will do what the developers for Exchange 2007 will do and make you use "powershell" AKA DOS to launch anything - OH, you want to launch word - just go to Powershell and type "launch "c:\program files\microsoft\office12\msword.exe" /yes /no uac" - isn't that so much more efficient than clicking on an icon? MS has really scraped the bottom of the barrel in development lately - reminds me of the crap I used to churn out for computer science class in high school using a TRS-80 booted up off a cassette tape.
How has MS fallen so far from grace? Mind you I'm not a MAC fanboy nor a Linux fanboy, I run XP at home and it runs well.
Vista is a flop/joke/trainwreck that for some reason Ballmer hasn't given up on yet. At least Bill knew that Bob, Clippy and ME were downed horses and he needed to put them out of everyone's misery.
Accept that Vista SP won't make it run fast enough, it would be much better to tear down the house and begin again then patch up this termite/lead paint/mold/asbestos laden house.
Fire anyone who worked on Vista, Exchange 2007 and ask them to leave town. Now begin work on XP 2009 and don't let any of the developers have new computers - pull them from the typing pool and give the fancy ones to the typing pool. After hours offer them free use of the PCs for LAN gaming parties - make sure they only use one PC and don't try to cluster them to make the games tolerable.
Tell them if after a month of development if they can't transfer files up and down from the server as fast as identical machines running XP - they will report to the cafeteria for work so that better qualified programmers won't go hungry.
And YES, I did say bloated code! Based on what Microsoft says about Vista, it is supposed to be a lot more secure. Then tell me how the hell securing down an operating system made it so much larger? Instead of making a left turn and driving off a cliff, they should have instead taken a totally different route by making a right turn. But in the case of Vista, Microsoft drove around the fricking world 100 times, ate at every restaurant along the way, and arrived at the destination while being carried by a crane because they're so heavy!!!!!! They didn't fix the underlying flaws that were in XP - they just stuck a bunch of hairy trolls named UAC in front, added a bunch of Aqua-looking effects, and finished it off by giving it different flavors like Basic, Home Premium.... My God, I purchased an Acer laptop with Vista Basic so that I can study how to use and support Vista. Using it is like running my finger nails across a blackboard!!!
1. When ever you make a new OS that is more demanding, on the same hardware, the old OS will push out more performance
2. All over the web people compare the failures of Vista to the success of Mac OS X Leopard. Can I just point out that leopard is the equivalent of XP SP2 going to SP3, only that you have to pay for it?! It's still OS X only one tenth higher, let's wait and see what Mac OS XI does, now you'll talk about an OS UPGRADE.
Now for my counter argument: I've ditched Vista on my laptop in favor of Ubuntu because I didn't want to pay $$$ to get Vista Ultimate Edition, and Windows XP Home Edition might be stable but it's and old OS that stops innovation.
In conclusion, I have Vista on my desktop PC and I love that Microsoft dared to make a product that was different to stir innovation, if I wanted stability I would still be using Windows 98 SE.
OSX == XP SP2?
Give me a break. OSX is still years ahead of any MS OS.
That you think Leopard is only a "tenth" higher shows how retarded you are.
It is people like you that caused marketers to use version numbers as marketing tools.
Bye Bye ;)
- I've got the Ubuntu Service Pack. It works well.
- by directorblue November 28, 2007 5:32 AM PST
- Very fast, excellent graphics, with amazing security features.
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- it's free
- by sanenazok November 28, 2007 7:32 AM PST
- and still only a tiny percentage of people want/use it. That should tell you something, shouldn't it. To get started with it all you need is a download and still penetration of desktop Linux is to break into the double digits.
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Showing 3 of 6 pages (330 Comments)Cut a CD of it now:
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
People ***** about lack of drivers for Vista and inability to run legacy WINDOWS programs on Vista out of the box. I'm sure Ubuntu is much worse on both fronts. I guess the performance will be better, but it would never rival that of my OS of choice: WfW 3.11.