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Are proofreaders an endangered species?
by HowardParsons January 30, 2007 11:21 AM PST
What's wrong w/ the following sentence?

Stewart warned Gates upfront that he was not exactly a technofile.

It should be "technophile" not "technofile".
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Are proofreaders an endangered species?
by HowardParsons January 30, 2007 11:21 AM PST
What's wrong w/ the following sentence?

Stewart warned Gates upfront that he was not exactly a technofile.

It should be "technophile" not "technofile".
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Vista
by bwchato January 30, 2007 11:32 AM PST
I don't have any interest in Vista.After 12 years i've learned not to try new operating systems since they have a lot of bugs and security holes.I intend to use XP PRO until i can't go where i want on the internet.I only started using XP about 3 years ago and have no intention of buying Vista.I already used Vista RC-1 and was not impressed.If i had the money i would rather buy a Mac.
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Vista
by bwchato January 30, 2007 11:32 AM PST
I don't have any interest in Vista.After 12 years i've learned not to try new operating systems since they have a lot of bugs and security holes.I intend to use XP PRO until i can't go where i want on the internet.I only started using XP about 3 years ago and have no intention of buying Vista.I already used Vista RC-1 and was not impressed.If i had the money i would rather buy a Mac.
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You go buy a mac then...
by DMAN3k January 30, 2007 12:28 PM PST
I bet you work for Apple... geez.

Unlike you, I don't want to pay $2 per update, I also don't want to wait 5 years for them to plug in a hole in Quicktime. I also don't like companies installing rootkits in my pc, like the one with iPod.

Safe and secure... and Macs use Firefox... How much safer and securer (err.. more secure) than a Vista-running machine also using Firefox?
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Full of crud
by kieranmullen January 30, 2007 5:45 PM PST
I dont even work or own a mac and I know your statement is filled with crap. $2 was a one time charge for a wireless update. I am sure that the Apple share holders are making tons of money off of the update that many people wont even buy.

KM
You should by a mac
by barrack January 30, 2007 7:45 PM PST
You sound like someone working for MS. Apple has no rootkit
installed on there computers and If i had to wait 5 years to really
get the windows hole patch with again an outdated OS I would have
switched to the company that can be proud to say : Still no
virusses!
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Amazing
by liam.doyle January 31, 2007 5:17 AM PST
You astound me by how little you know about what you're talking about.

Mac OS X's core security comes from its open-source kernel, - i can't comment on vista's new security as I haven't used it yet - but it has little to do with Firefox.

Your comment about ipod rootkits is equally less informed, and i'm amazed to see someone actually commenting on slow security turnarounds and then using MS as the comparative example.

Vista i'm sure will be good, but i think maybe you should take off those blinkers and actually read something about the state of the tech world before you make another inane comment like that.
HaHa
by TowerTone January 31, 2007 7:06 AM PST
Your stupid. And I mean really, really stupid. Don't misunderstand
me, I'm not saying you are misinformed or incorrect, I'm flat out
saying you are stupid.
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Must be a linux user ...
by mdfischer January 31, 2007 11:26 AM PST
Couldn't be a Windows user ... complaining of an alleged 5 year
wait to plug one hole, agains five years to plug tens of
thousands.

Complaining about a rumored $2 fee that will never happen.

And a mac with a firefox vulnerability is far safer then windows
since firefox can't gain root priviledges while you don't neet root
priviledges to wreck havoc on Windows.

and the beat goes on ....
You go buy a mac then...
by DMAN3k January 30, 2007 12:28 PM PST
I bet you work for Apple... geez.

Unlike you, I don't want to pay $2 per update, I also don't want to wait 5 years for them to plug in a hole in Quicktime. I also don't like companies installing rootkits in my pc, like the one with iPod.

Safe and secure... and Macs use Firefox... How much safer and securer (err.. more secure) than a Vista-running machine also using Firefox?
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Full of crud
by kieranmullen January 30, 2007 5:45 PM PST
I dont even work or own a mac and I know your statement is filled with crap. $2 was a one time charge for a wireless update. I am sure that the Apple share holders are making tons of money off of the update that many people wont even buy.

KM
You should by a mac
by barrack January 30, 2007 7:45 PM PST
You sound like someone working for MS. Apple has no rootkit
installed on there computers and If i had to wait 5 years to really
get the windows hole patch with again an outdated OS I would have
switched to the company that can be proud to say : Still no
virusses!
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Amazing
by liam.doyle January 31, 2007 5:17 AM PST
You astound me by how little you know about what you're talking about.

Mac OS X's core security comes from its open-source kernel, - i can't comment on vista's new security as I haven't used it yet - but it has little to do with Firefox.

Your comment about ipod rootkits is equally less informed, and i'm amazed to see someone actually commenting on slow security turnarounds and then using MS as the comparative example.

Vista i'm sure will be good, but i think maybe you should take off those blinkers and actually read something about the state of the tech world before you make another inane comment like that.
HaHa
by TowerTone January 31, 2007 7:06 AM PST
Your stupid. And I mean really, really stupid. Don't misunderstand
me, I'm not saying you are misinformed or incorrect, I'm flat out
saying you are stupid.
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Must be a linux user ...
by mdfischer January 31, 2007 11:26 AM PST
Couldn't be a Windows user ... complaining of an alleged 5 year
wait to plug one hole, agains five years to plug tens of
thousands.

Complaining about a rumored $2 fee that will never happen.

And a mac with a firefox vulnerability is far safer then windows
since firefox can't gain root priviledges while you don't neet root
priviledges to wreck havoc on Windows.

and the beat goes on ....
Vista to difficult for Balmer's wife?
by barrack January 30, 2007 7:39 PM PST
Is it that hard to install vista on a pc that the man of the house has
to do the work? I can understand that he fixes the car or does the
jobs that are hefty but is Windows still that dificult that an
experienced man needs to install it?
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Whoosh!
by CBS Orchestra January 31, 2007 6:47 AM PST
You missed the point.

Mr. Ballmer didn't say that Mrs. Ballmer finds it "to (sic) difficult" to install. He said that she has a rule about not installing beta software on her PC.

She sounds like a sensible woman -- unlike millions of others who ignore warnings about using beta software on mission-critical PCs, and then moan and groan because something isn't working properly.
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Ballmer has a wife?
by vm019302 January 31, 2007 3:56 PM PST
Wow, she must be a very special person.
Marrying monkey boy wasn't too smart
by Clues January 31, 2007 7:30 PM PST
If she was dumb enough to marry this used car clown salesman
how bright can she be. Maybe inserting a DVD and clicking start
are a little outside her abilities. You geeks can no doubt handle that
though, right? Well at least in a group effort, right? No.... oh.
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Vista to difficult for Balmer's wife?
by barrack January 30, 2007 7:39 PM PST
Is it that hard to install vista on a pc that the man of the house has
to do the work? I can understand that he fixes the car or does the
jobs that are hefty but is Windows still that dificult that an
experienced man needs to install it?
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Whoosh!
by CBS Orchestra January 31, 2007 6:47 AM PST
You missed the point.

Mr. Ballmer didn't say that Mrs. Ballmer finds it "to (sic) difficult" to install. He said that she has a rule about not installing beta software on her PC.

She sounds like a sensible woman -- unlike millions of others who ignore warnings about using beta software on mission-critical PCs, and then moan and groan because something isn't working properly.
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Ballmer has a wife?
by vm019302 January 31, 2007 3:56 PM PST
Wow, she must be a very special person.
Marrying monkey boy wasn't too smart
by Clues January 31, 2007 7:30 PM PST
If she was dumb enough to marry this used car clown salesman
how bright can she be. Maybe inserting a DVD and clicking start
are a little outside her abilities. You geeks can no doubt handle that
though, right? Well at least in a group effort, right? No.... oh.
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Windows user dont read CNET anymore?
by TanNg January 31, 2007 8:07 AM PST
It seems that Windows user don't read CNET any more. Look into the voting result and you will see that. And me after almost 4 years of reading News.com and eWeek, yesterday I just delete eWeek from my bookmark. I may soon switch to Digg and other news sources, this pool show me that CNET is no more for mainstream user, it is now a land of haters.

Goodbye CNET!
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Agreed
by ACole January 31, 2007 11:23 AM PST
Every Vista story is covered with Mac bias from head to toe, and every reply comes from Windows hating bigots who contribute nothing useful to the discussion.

There are plenty of other news sites to visit that give neutral opinions in their stories... and you don't have to read replies from their readers who, in the end, can only voice their opinions among Microsoft hating friends because of their collective insecurities.
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Not Only Users - CNET Editors Haven't Seen Windows in Years
by iZune January 31, 2007 4:13 PM PST
Beyond the crazy-eyed Macinfart fanatics, CNET itself leans heavily towards Rotten Apple. Jobs can do no wrong, the iPud is the new Bible and telephony didn't exist until a few weeks ago (I'm not sure how we all ever called each other all these years).

On the users comments, every article is turned into Microsoft is evil (so 1997) and Macinpoop is from God (1984), even those that have nothing to do with either company. CNET encourages this with it's editor policies of how articles are written - it not only loves Macinturd, it loves it when fanatical jihad Al-Apple and Osama Bin Jobs' followers come on to comment.
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A likely reason . . .
by Thrudheim February 2, 2007 11:12 AM PST
When Safari RSS came out a couple of years ago, several RSS
feeds were included in the basic set of bookmarks. CNET's RSS
feed is among them. My guess is that a lot of Mac users end up
here because of that, making the proportion of Mac visitors to
the site much higher than the proportion of Mac users overall.

Long-time readers might remember that CNET used to be quite
biased against the Mac. CNET no doubt noticed a significant
increase in Mac traffic following the release of Safari RSS. The
anti-Mac bias has changed, though I certainly would not say that
the site is now "pro-Mac."

Another side effect is a significant increase in Mac headlines,
many of them inflamatory, that draw in Mac traffic through the
RSS feed.
Windows user dont read CNET anymore?
by TanNg January 31, 2007 8:07 AM PST
It seems that Windows user don't read CNET any more. Look into the voting result and you will see that. And me after almost 4 years of reading News.com and eWeek, yesterday I just delete eWeek from my bookmark. I may soon switch to Digg and other news sources, this pool show me that CNET is no more for mainstream user, it is now a land of haters.

Goodbye CNET!
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Agreed
by ACole January 31, 2007 11:23 AM PST
Every Vista story is covered with Mac bias from head to toe, and every reply comes from Windows hating bigots who contribute nothing useful to the discussion.

There are plenty of other news sites to visit that give neutral opinions in their stories... and you don't have to read replies from their readers who, in the end, can only voice their opinions among Microsoft hating friends because of their collective insecurities.
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Not Only Users - CNET Editors Haven't Seen Windows in Years
by iZune January 31, 2007 4:13 PM PST
Beyond the crazy-eyed Macinfart fanatics, CNET itself leans heavily towards Rotten Apple. Jobs can do no wrong, the iPud is the new Bible and telephony didn't exist until a few weeks ago (I'm not sure how we all ever called each other all these years).

On the users comments, every article is turned into Microsoft is evil (so 1997) and Macinpoop is from God (1984), even those that have nothing to do with either company. CNET encourages this with it's editor policies of how articles are written - it not only loves Macinturd, it loves it when fanatical jihad Al-Apple and Osama Bin Jobs' followers come on to comment.
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A likely reason . . .
by Thrudheim February 2, 2007 11:12 AM PST
When Safari RSS came out a couple of years ago, several RSS
feeds were included in the basic set of bookmarks. CNET's RSS
feed is among them. My guess is that a lot of Mac users end up
here because of that, making the proportion of Mac visitors to
the site much higher than the proportion of Mac users overall.

Long-time readers might remember that CNET used to be quite
biased against the Mac. CNET no doubt noticed a significant
increase in Mac traffic following the release of Safari RSS. The
anti-Mac bias has changed, though I certainly would not say that
the site is now "pro-Mac."

Another side effect is a significant increase in Mac headlines,
many of them inflamatory, that draw in Mac traffic through the
RSS feed.
Desktop search
by TanNg January 31, 2007 4:35 PM PST
Do you know who have desktop search first? Many desktop search applications are running on Windows 2000, XP. Apple just copy it into their OS. Search concept also showed in prototype of Longhorn before OS X appear. So, this is not a trust, this is a lie. Ten company desktop search application and CNET dont talk about this, but when Google come out with GDS CNET was chanting "Innovation", when Apple copy it to their OS, CNET and Apple user are shouting "breakthrough innovation". And you call this trust.
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Hilarios
by Clues January 31, 2007 7:46 PM PST
Anybody else living in that reality?
MS not innovative here...
by FellowConspirator February 1, 2007 1:50 PM PST
The notion of "desktop search" is pretty old.
Desktop Search as it is used today was really
first attempted (and failed) by Oracle who tried
to do it with IFS (which worked for a networked
filesystem and ignored the desktop). At about
the same time, Google and several other offered
simple desktop search engines and Linux
developers came up with various approaches from
file-system extensions to background indexers.

The modern desktop search with local
plugin-based metadata extraction and indexing
was first demonstrated in Linux with Beagle (and
a couple of other engines) then quickly followed
up with Spotlight. Microsoft's own internal
memos note that they had promised but failed to
deliver the feature which, in the meantime had
been delivered by others -- spurring them to
introduce the desktop search in Vista (which is
considerably less ambitious than the original
plan and still doesn't function quite as well as
Apple's Spotlight).

Actually Beagle is probably the best if only
from it's relatively simple and elegant
implementation. It's written in Mono-compatible
C#, so it could easily be ported to Windows and
Mac.
Desktop search
by TanNg January 31, 2007 4:35 PM PST
Do you know who have desktop search first? Many desktop search applications are running on Windows 2000, XP. Apple just copy it into their OS. Search concept also showed in prototype of Longhorn before OS X appear. So, this is not a trust, this is a lie. Ten company desktop search application and CNET dont talk about this, but when Google come out with GDS CNET was chanting "Innovation", when Apple copy it to their OS, CNET and Apple user are shouting "breakthrough innovation". And you call this trust.
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Hilarios
by Clues January 31, 2007 7:46 PM PST
Anybody else living in that reality?
MS not innovative here...
by FellowConspirator February 1, 2007 1:50 PM PST
The notion of "desktop search" is pretty old.
Desktop Search as it is used today was really
first attempted (and failed) by Oracle who tried
to do it with IFS (which worked for a networked
filesystem and ignored the desktop). At about
the same time, Google and several other offered
simple desktop search engines and Linux
developers came up with various approaches from
file-system extensions to background indexers.

The modern desktop search with local
plugin-based metadata extraction and indexing
was first demonstrated in Linux with Beagle (and
a couple of other engines) then quickly followed
up with Spotlight. Microsoft's own internal
memos note that they had promised but failed to
deliver the feature which, in the meantime had
been delivered by others -- spurring them to
introduce the desktop search in Vista (which is
considerably less ambitious than the original
plan and still doesn't function quite as well as
Apple's Spotlight).

Actually Beagle is probably the best if only
from it's relatively simple and elegant
implementation. It's written in Mono-compatible
C#, so it could easily be ported to Windows and
Mac.
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