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But, my friend, that is exactly what is happening.
I got so fed up with XP, that I did buy Macs for my self, for the Wife, and so on. When Vista comes out I will get it when my employer pays for the laptop and the software, I my self will no longer be purchasing MS software, because there are better things out there, and that's the truth.
People are switching to Mac and Linux. If Apple was smart, they would re-lease OS X for all PCs, since they run now on Intel, what would happen to Vista and Microsoft ?
I love my Mac, not a single crash, top of the line File System and new upgrades are just around the horizon, I can run all kinds of demanding programs without a sneeze, G5 Rules.
Without it, and IBM there would be no Xbox 360.
No way anyone can tell me that XP is better or Vista, I installed Beta 1 (disappointing and slow), then I wanted to try Beta 2, that wouldn't even install, I got errors and I gave up and threw the disk away.
Office 2007, Please.... you guys screwed the menus up big time.
Oh, and $100 for a near-annual bump from 10.x to 10.y? That's not my idea of smart consumerism...
But, my friend, that is exactly what is happening.
I got so fed up with XP, that I did buy Macs for my self, for the Wife, and so on. When Vista comes out I will get it when my employer pays for the laptop and the software, I my self will no longer be purchasing MS software, because there are better things out there, and that's the truth.
People are switching to Mac and Linux. If Apple was smart, they would re-lease OS X for all PCs, since they run now on Intel, what would happen to Vista and Microsoft ?
I love my Mac, not a single crash, top of the line File System and new upgrades are just around the horizon, I can run all kinds of demanding programs without a sneeze, G5 Rules.
Without it, and IBM there would be no Xbox 360.
No way anyone can tell me that XP is better or Vista, I installed Beta 1 (disappointing and slow), then I wanted to try Beta 2, that wouldn't even install, I got errors and I gave up and threw the disk away.
Office 2007, Please.... you guys screwed the menus up big time.
Oh, and $100 for a near-annual bump from 10.x to 10.y? That's not my idea of smart consumerism...
To say Apple is the answer...they may not have any problems now with Malware or viruses but OSX is far from bullet proof. No software is...it is nearly impossible. If Apples market share were to significantly increase then the problems will come with it too. Not only would the problems increase, but instead of dealing with an OS monopoly you would also be locked into a hardware platform as well.
The only reasonable answer is the PC platform running a 'nix OS.
I stil use Slackware Linux and love it, Suse is good too.
Sun Solaris is a good advanced OS for networks, way better then Windows as far as network stuff goes, and Solaris will work on PCs as well, don't even need to buy anything they sell.
Since they only have 3.x% of the market, they have the luxury of doing what they do best...What is that you ask? Ripping people off for PC hardware with an Apple logo. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro running Vista Beta 2. It runs better than OS X. Since running the 10.4.7 update, its been thew most unreliable POS version of the OS ive ever used. To say that the mac is problem free is bull. Well, maybe not for a home computer but in a huge company they are nightmares...TONS of hardware problems - i've sent back almost 20 brand new DC G5's for things like, faulty power supplies, bad DVD-R's, Crappy memory..We dont have nearly the same problems on our 600 PC's that we have on 180 macs...OS X is nice, I am a fan of both windows and os x, but come on...Face it..OS X will not get far...MS will sell 70 million+ copies of Vista in the 1st month of its release...And so far, as I stated, ive had positive experiences on a the few machines i have installed Vista on...OS X? this morning, I had to go through 10 different versions of restore cd's to find the right one for that particular machine...Thats BS...
To say Apple is the answer...they may not have any problems now with Malware or viruses but OSX is far from bullet proof. No software is...it is nearly impossible. If Apples market share were to significantly increase then the problems will come with it too. Not only would the problems increase, but instead of dealing with an OS monopoly you would also be locked into a hardware platform as well.
The only reasonable answer is the PC platform running a 'nix OS.
I stil use Slackware Linux and love it, Suse is good too.
Sun Solaris is a good advanced OS for networks, way better then Windows as far as network stuff goes, and Solaris will work on PCs as well, don't even need to buy anything they sell.
Since they only have 3.x% of the market, they have the luxury of doing what they do best...What is that you ask? Ripping people off for PC hardware with an Apple logo. I'm typing this on a MacBook Pro running Vista Beta 2. It runs better than OS X. Since running the 10.4.7 update, its been thew most unreliable POS version of the OS ive ever used. To say that the mac is problem free is bull. Well, maybe not for a home computer but in a huge company they are nightmares...TONS of hardware problems - i've sent back almost 20 brand new DC G5's for things like, faulty power supplies, bad DVD-R's, Crappy memory..We dont have nearly the same problems on our 600 PC's that we have on 180 macs...OS X is nice, I am a fan of both windows and os x, but come on...Face it..OS X will not get far...MS will sell 70 million+ copies of Vista in the 1st month of its release...And so far, as I stated, ive had positive experiences on a the few machines i have installed Vista on...OS X? this morning, I had to go through 10 different versions of restore cd's to find the right one for that particular machine...Thats BS...
Some folks buy one or the other because of various priorities/
predilictions.
Which company is truly forward thinking is starting to
show...and its starting to show in several embarassing ways.
It may have taken a while, but folks might just get off the "I love
my *****, even though its in the shop all the time and it gets bad
marks for efficiency or modern design, etc." and realize that
there's been something better all along. They'll realize that
going "cheaper" and "more mainstream" is not a bargain nor the
safest investment when you look at productivity and real value.
Ah, but thank goodness my new Toshiba laptop is 'Vista-Ready'.
I might just feel its safe to upgrade--in 2008.
But I'll be buying a new Mac well before then and getting a LOT
done in the mean-time...;)
Some folks buy one or the other because of various priorities/
predilictions.
Which company is truly forward thinking is starting to
show...and its starting to show in several embarassing ways.
It may have taken a while, but folks might just get off the "I love
my *****, even though its in the shop all the time and it gets bad
marks for efficiency or modern design, etc." and realize that
there's been something better all along. They'll realize that
going "cheaper" and "more mainstream" is not a bargain nor the
safest investment when you look at productivity and real value.
Ah, but thank goodness my new Toshiba laptop is 'Vista-Ready'.
I might just feel its safe to upgrade--in 2008.
But I'll be buying a new Mac well before then and getting a LOT
done in the mean-time...;)
Wait until after Vista rolls out, goes through the ringer and get many of the more blatant bugs worked out of the system and wait until I am ready to purchase a new computer (since mine works fine right now as is).
Keep using Linux and continue with the FREE upgrades to the OS, be able to run it well after Microsoft and Apple have changed something major in their requirements (such as the chip it runs on, or the hardware requirements), get most of my software free of cost, easy one-step updates and minimal (practically) no virus' and malware.
Decisions, decisions....
Wait until after Vista rolls out, goes through the ringer and get many of the more blatant bugs worked out of the system and wait until I am ready to purchase a new computer (since mine works fine right now as is).
Keep using Linux and continue with the FREE upgrades to the OS, be able to run it well after Microsoft and Apple have changed something major in their requirements (such as the chip it runs on, or the hardware requirements), get most of my software free of cost, easy one-step updates and minimal (practically) no virus' and malware.
Decisions, decisions....
Tell that to the suckers^M-corporate clients who paid large sums of money for Microsoft's Software Assurance Program. 2007 (or later?) will likely cause Vista to come out after the individual contracts expire in many cases, which means a lot of companies stand to realize that they wasted a lot of money.
You go wasting a company's money like that, and (if they're smart) they start looking for alternatives.
/P
Tell that to the suckers^M-corporate clients who paid large sums of money for Microsoft's Software Assurance Program. 2007 (or later?) will likely cause Vista to come out after the individual contracts expire in many cases, which means a lot of companies stand to realize that they wasted a lot of money.
You go wasting a company's money like that, and (if they're smart) they start looking for alternatives.
/P
Windows users (I am one) will rationalize problems with Windows
and Microsoft (five plus year delays now). ONe person suggested
that these delays are Microsoft's "listening to customers". How
pathetic a rationale that is.
I'm in my late forties but several of the the some of the people
quoted apparently have no sense of history with Micorosoft and
Windows.
Someone wrote there is "nothing wrong" with his Vista Beta
except
for some "reliability and compatibility issues"! LOL! What if that
were a car?? Would that be acceptable in other products? It is for
Windows users because that's all they know because most are
unaware of Mac or Linux alternatives.
So you want us to believe that Windows users are unfamiliar with the Apple/Mac brand name? -LOL!
As for Linux, get back to me when HP, Dell, etc., offer it preinstalled on they personal computers.
So you want us to believe that Windows users are unfamiliar with the Apple/Mac brand name? -LOL!
As for Linux, get back to me when HP, Dell, etc., offer it preinstalled on their personal computers.
Windows users (I am one) will rationalize problems with Windows
and Microsoft (five plus year delays now). ONe person suggested
that these delays are Microsoft's "listening to customers". How
pathetic a rationale that is.
I'm in my late forties but several of the the some of the people
quoted apparently have no sense of history with Micorosoft and
Windows.
Someone wrote there is "nothing wrong" with his Vista Beta
except
for some "reliability and compatibility issues"! LOL! What if that
were a car?? Would that be acceptable in other products? It is for
Windows users because that's all they know because most are
unaware of Mac or Linux alternatives.
So you want us to believe that Windows users are unfamiliar with the Apple/Mac brand name? -LOL!
As for Linux, get back to me when HP, Dell, etc., offer it preinstalled on they personal computers.
So you want us to believe that Windows users are unfamiliar with the Apple/Mac brand name? -LOL!
As for Linux, get back to me when HP, Dell, etc., offer it preinstalled on their personal computers.
consumer can now get BOTH operating systems on ONE machine.
Better yet, it's on Apple Engineered hardware:-)
Windows, on a Mac.
Actually it's 3+ for 1 PC since Linux has been able to go onto Macs, Windows, Solaris and more for a long time now.
How about you open your macbook pro or any intel based mac to find almost all standard pc hardware..
Lets look at that shall we?
HDD - "Engineered by Toshiba"
Display Adapter - "Engineered by ATI"
DVD - "Engineered by Matshita"
Firewire "Engineered by AGERE"
NIC's - "Engineered by Atheros and Marvel"
CPU - "Engineered by INTEL"
Audio - "Engineered by SigmaTEL"
TPM - "Engineered by Infineon"
Okay, so the only thing "engineered by apple was the case (Cheap and flimsy{SP}) in my mind, and the Apple "LOGO" that lights up...
Please, All of the hardware used in a new intel mac is all pc hardware from pc manufactures..
The only thing apple "engineered in their platform is the UI..BSD - OpenSouce 50 yr old OS with eye candy (but not really)
Vista looks cleaner than OS X, Ive even had die hard Mac fans (friends of mine) say they were quite impressed..
consumer can now get BOTH operating systems on ONE machine.
Better yet, it's on Apple Engineered hardware:-)
Windows, on a Mac.
Actually it's 3+ for 1 PC since Linux has been able to go onto Macs, Windows, Solaris and more for a long time now.
How about you open your macbook pro or any intel based mac to find almost all standard pc hardware..
Lets look at that shall we?
HDD - "Engineered by Toshiba"
Display Adapter - "Engineered by ATI"
DVD - "Engineered by Matshita"
Firewire "Engineered by AGERE"
NIC's - "Engineered by Atheros and Marvel"
CPU - "Engineered by INTEL"
Audio - "Engineered by SigmaTEL"
TPM - "Engineered by Infineon"
Okay, so the only thing "engineered by apple was the case (Cheap and flimsy{SP}) in my mind, and the Apple "LOGO" that lights up...
Please, All of the hardware used in a new intel mac is all pc hardware from pc manufactures..
The only thing apple "engineered in their platform is the UI..BSD - OpenSouce 50 yr old OS with eye candy (but not really)
Vista looks cleaner than OS X, Ive even had die hard Mac fans (friends of mine) say they were quite impressed..
With Bootcamp, to do it legally, the consumer would have to pay a premium price for the full-version of Windows.
Then, they would have to go through the additional hassle of installing Windows themselves, rather than having it preinstalled.
- Bootcamp Costs & Inconvenience
- by john55440 July 13, 2006 5:02 PM PDT
- >a consumer can now get BOTH operating systems on ONE machine.<
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Showing 2 of 3 pages (140 Comments)With Bootcamp, to do it legally, the consumer would have to pay a premium price for the full-version of Windows.
Then, they would have to go through the additional hassle of installing Windows themselves, rather than having it preinstalled.