Comments on: XP and Vista to get new media player

Microsoft's Windows Media Player 11 is coming to Vista and to XP sooner. Is iPod connection ahead?

[DraconumPB]

Why bother with an ipod anyway? waste of money.

Having a NON-iPod MP3 player, such as my creative zen, means that I already have that capability anyway, regardless or iTunes or Windows Media or whatever.

I can also get the autofill option through the new Winamp..

Just because the iPod is popular doesn't mean that it has absolutely every feature that you could want in an mp3 player. For example, why would you want something that syncs and works better with a Mac when you probably don't own a Mac anyway? Why would you want to deal with proprietary formats (not saying that windows media is much better here, but at least it gives you a choice of MP3 player brand..)? Apple is shooting themselves in the foot with this proprietary crap, they would have sold twice as much if it didn't require that you use the iTunes bulls--. When I owned an iPod, the current version of iTunes at the time (dating back to probably v4) wouldn't even recognize it or sync. I had to download EphPod. Not to mention that the store itself is a DRM nightmare...

So why downplay a media player that is going to be 10x as versatile as iTunes by design? 'Cause if it's got a lowercase 'i' in front of it, it has to be cool..

[miketkrw]

Why bother trashing the iPod?

Just because it has 80% of the market and is hands down the simplest and most reliable music player on the market? Sounds more like you have iPod envy and are furiously trying to convince people your zen is just as cool. Bottom line is, enjoy your zen and let everyone else enjoy their iPod.

[CaptDave86]

As PA puts it

here is an example of someone that thinks they are a bit over priced too, its from the online Comic Penny Arcade:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/05/28

[Fritzw]

Thats Dumb...

That player sucks, and the software sucks even more.

[CaptDave86]

Reasons for the Inferiority?

Well are you going to back up what you have to say about WinAmp are you just going to say "it sucks" and run and hide behind your little pink iMac? I would really like to know why you think WinAmp "sucks" so much. Really indulge me in your reasonings.
Also can you Informe me on why so the Zen sucks too? As far as I know , Creative has some of THE best Audio devices in the world for the computer. and Boes doesnt count here. they are not a Copmputer primary company, they are Home and Car audio.

So Ingulge me if you please.

[ross brown--2008]

Another day, another load of misinformed BS from c|net

All this BS from c|net whenever Apple is mentioned is really
starting to annoy me. I don't know whether it's ignorance or FUD
but it surely has no place in "intelligent" journalism from what
you would imagine are people who know/understand the topic
they're writing about.

"Of course, the player that most people want to connect with is
Apple Computer's iPod. And no, Windows Media Player 11 won't
allow conversion of purchased Windows Media Songs into
iTunes' proprietary FairPlay format. So songs bought from a
Windows Media store still won't play on the iPod."

Is it just me that knows how to make a WMV file work on an
iPod? Am I some computer genius or something?

Why, when a player can play almost every format under the sun
is that player derided for only playing one format AAC? And
since when were MP4 files (to give AAC its "correct" title)
proprietary anyway? Protected MP4s are what iTMS sells - not
generic ones.

Apple's iTunes+iPod turnkey solution is seen as monopolistic
because why? Cause songs purchased through iTMS will only
play on an iPod? iTMS and iTunes aren't the same thing. You
want to rip all your CDs into iTunes? Use MP3 or WAV format if
you like, then transfer these files using A.N.Other jukebox to
your non-iPod music player. Apple are hardly forcing you to use
their solution; true they make it simple to use, but what's wrong
with that?

And all this incessant rubbish about Apple licensing Fairplay to
Windows-based music sellers, if these people were that
bothered about selling music that played on iPods they could do
it without Fairplay - sell your music in either MP3, MP4/AAC or
WAV formats (they'll all import into iTunes, and they'll all play on
an iPod. Indeed, is there anything to stop a music retailer
producing a plug-in for iTunes that would make this process
simpler? Or - and here's the simplest of all solutions - stop
******** about iTunes and actually write some half-decent
jukebox software of your own (and that certainly isn't WMP in
any format I've ever seen).

In short, I don't mind people complaining about some perceived
Apple music monopoly - but I want to see some facts to back it
up. Tell me why you view the iPod as "locked-down", tell me why
Apple needs to licence Fairplay and tell me why, if Apple's
"solution" is second-rate (as many people on c|net's boards
maintain) the company has such a large slice of the relevant
market?

RB

[Musica360.com]

very true...

<And all this incessant rubbish about Apple licensing Fairplay to
Windows-based music sellers, if these people were that
bothered about selling music that played on iPods they could do
it without Fairplay - sell your music in either MP3, MP4/AAC or
WAV formats (they'll all import into iTunes, and they'll all play on
an iPod>

Which is why eMusic, who sells indie music in unprotected MP3
format, is the SECOND LARGEST digital music retailer after
iTunes trumping Napster, MSN, Yahoo, and Real.

[ServedUp]

Article Serves Only One Purpose

This article serves only one purpose to make Microsoft money.
As if Bill needs anymore money.

Its unbelievable how people still think they're doing anything for
the tech industry these days instead of following other
companies ideas and trying to make a profit out of it, or try and
control public mindshare which is the only thing Microsoft
seems questionably good at and is the only thing this article
seems to reveal. This is definitely another paid advertorial to try
and create buzz for a product thats no more innovative than a
toaster, which I don't believe anyones going to fall for,
considering they can't even get they're OS (Vista) in order.

I don't believe any competition will work against Itunes right
now. The only way to unseat the lead is to actually get them to
open up Fairplay, Apple's Digital Rights Management format.
And thats not going to happen. Its very unprofitable and
ridiculous for Microsoft to compete against Apple right now (in
this space). Apple has the sizzle, because they've worked hard to
get there and its deserved. Now Microsoft is trying to angle
they're way in on that market by trying to create buzz for
another Itunes (WMP11).

I believe they should put all available man power in creating
something utterly new or speed up the process of bringing out
Vista. But they duplicate and ultimately digress which just isn't
going to cut it in today's industry.

Its a jack of all trades master of none, kind of business they
have there. No vision at all whatsoever. Apple's evil twin brother.

[bowlearley]

thats bull shit

i want ipods to work on windows media player

[bowlearley]

thats bull fuck

i want ipods to work on windows media player