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Comments on: Microsoft launches updated Vista preview

Third preview version of forthcoming Windows release adds security features, as well as performance and user interface functions.

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Might buy it
by t8 December 19, 2005 3:33 PM PST
if it was based on the Linux kernel.
I can see all those viruses and worms just waiting for Vista as a new host.
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Please Reason
by folsco December 20, 2005 6:45 AM PST
I'm *very sure* u can *easily* enter my "My Windows XP SP 2" system, which was not based on Linux kernel, over the network! Can't you?

one more thing. pls, do me one favour (if you're using linux):
* remove your root password; and
* give me your ip address

can i hear u say you can't do that? Ooooh, that is how most Windows XP Systems beasts are running! Don't you think securing an OS by default is very essential?
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great...another attempt at making lives difficult
by muntz December 19, 2005 6:16 PM PST
"Tighter control over removable storage devices lets system
administrators centrally block the installation of, for example,
USB flash drives and external hard drives. This feature is
designed to help prevent corporate intellectual property or
sensitive data from being compromised or stolen."

Glad I use a Mac is all I can say. Shouldn't an admin be able to
lock down directories that could be copied onto an iPod
(because isn't that what they're really locking out?) so they're not
easily lifted? Isn't this kind of draconian? This really seems like M
$s way of getting back at Apple, since they can't compete on
innovation.
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It is for the protection of data in sensitive environments
by cturkin December 20, 2005 1:23 AM PST
This is not designed to make your life more difficult, it is designed to provide increased security in sensitive environments (where confidentiality must be controlled) where there is concern that sensitive data can be copied onto portable storage.

Nothing to do with iPods or innovation - you will see plenty of innovation elsewhere in Vista.

I rate your post at 1 out of 10 for intelligence and understanding of the issues.
Can I get you?
by folsco December 20, 2005 6:57 AM PST
"Glad I use a Mac . . .. Shouldn't an admin be able to lock down directories that could be copied . . . so they're not easily lifted? This really seems like M$s way . . ., since they can't compete on innovation."

Which innovation are you talking about? ability to lock down folders from other unauthorized users? or what? Do you know about NTFS ACL?

I can likewise do this on my windows machine; but, we need something more revolutionary than this! This is a very nice try from M$! Let's wait and see how it works out.
Don't get the point
by junkmarc December 20, 2005 9:23 AM PST
This isn't about Apple.

Locking down a directory disables a user from using that directory, which is already doable in Win2K, XP, and Win2K3 Server environment.

The objective is not to allow a non-admin user to either introduce new software or take data from his/her company-owned machine. Email can be used to this end, but that has its own paper trail.

Locking down a corporate system involves disabling the 3.5 floppy, and the DVD/CD drives. USB was always able to circumvent this data transference lockdown because it always installs. It remains a huge security oversite by MS.
However you look at it...
by Michael Grogan December 20, 2005 8:41 AM PST
..it's still bloatware, lol, what's the point of an OS that takes more power to run than the games I play?
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explain
by cturkin December 20, 2005 9:23 AM PST
>>an OS that takes more power to run than the games I play?

On what do you base this?? What are you playing? Solitare??
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bloatware
by Thunder Johny June 19, 2007 11:38 AM PDT
http://www.analogstereo.com/isuzu_vehicross_owners_manual.htm
Might Buy It
by eddygk December 20, 2005 9:09 AM PST
Well, I've never had any serious issues with any version of Windows except for Windows ME. I will be using Vista when it launches because it is going to be a step forward and the features are definitely cool. I don't understand why MAC and Linux users enjoy using a platform with such a limited range of software available to it (compared to the Windows Platform).
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lack of software?
by pfelix December 20, 2005 9:42 AM PST
"I don't understand why MAC and Linux users enjoy using a
platform with such a limited range of software available to it
(compared to the Windows Platform)."

I am a Mac user and I am able to find any software I need to do my
work. Please, get a little bit more informed about what is going on
the Mac platform before you post comments like this one.
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Quality Not Quantity
by kelmon December 20, 2005 9:45 AM PST
The relative lack of software for the Mac (I can't speak for Linux)
was an initial concern of mine when I switched but I've really not
had any trouble. The standard iLife software to begin with is
absolutely fabulous, particularly when it comes free with any
Mac product. Beyond this there is generally plenty of choice
with all the bases covered with the big products (Office,
Photoshop, etc.). I've developed a very nice library of software
over the past couple of years and have not had any trouble in
finding quality software to do what I need. This is one of the
reasons why, when my current laptop needs to be replaced next
year, I'll buy another Mac.

To be honest, until you try it it is hard to explain WHY I prefer
Apple but it basically comes down to far fewer annoyances. It
just 'fits' better with what I want to do and how I want to do it.
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Software availability......
by Earl Benser December 21, 2005 3:35 AM PST
... right from the start, the PC and DOS were so simple minded
that virtually every nerd in the world could write software, and
many of them did. There used to be hundreds of thousands of
'private' software packages cluttering the market. Some of the
nerds were better than others, Ellison for example, and fortunes
were made.

Then Windows came along and many nerds couldn't handle the
load. But the momentum created the big software houses, plus
of course, the large number of Mac programs which were ported
to the PC (Adobe, Microsoft Word, Macromedia, Borland, etc)

So yes, the PC does have an abundance of program options. It
also gets a basically adequate rating in the program quality area.
but if you focus on the quality programs, the PC box isn't that
full. If you want froth, there is no end.
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Software availability......
by Earl Benser December 21, 2005 3:36 AM PST
... right from the start, the PC and DOS were so simple minded
that virtually every nerd in the world could write software, and
many of them did. There used to be hundreds of thousands of
'private' software packages cluttering the market. Some of the
nerds were better than others, Ellison for example, and fortunes
were made.

Then Windows came along and many nerds couldn't handle the
load. But the momentum created the big software houses, plus
of course, the large number of Mac programs which were ported
to the PC (Adobe, Microsoft Word, Macromedia, Borland, etc)

So yes, the PC does have an abundance of program options. It
also gets a basically adequate rating in the program quality area.
but if you focus on the quality programs, the PC box isn't that
full. If you want froth, there is no end.
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Still looking....
by Earl Benser December 21, 2005 3:23 AM PST
.... for a significant reason to even consider upgrading to Vista.
XP runs fine now, and does exactly what I want it to do. Vista so
far appears to be mostly smoke, while requiring essentially new
computers. My PC's are quite adequate, my copies of XP are
quite adequate, the capabilities of the PC's and software are
quite adequate.

I've even got W2K PC's which didn't need to be upgraded to XP.

Nothing's broke, and there's no need to fix anything. There's
definitely no need to spend the rather large quantity of cash any
fix might require.
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