Comments on: Windows Live rooted in MSN's past

Microsoft's new Web service, which debuted this week, owes much to MSN and a failed effort called "Hailstorm."
Photos: Windows Live and kicking

[PCCRomeo]

So Hotmail will become what?

If they're changing the name, what will happen to @hotmail.com?? Im seeing @winmail.com for some odd reason........

[vikram.s]

hotmail will continue to work

you will always be able to sign in with your hotmail account and sign up with new email domains (live.com) in the future

[vikram.s]

Gadgets - A developer platform

The article talks about how Gadgets are so complicated. Well, it's not something that Microsoft expects end users to write. It's a platform to extend live.com and there will be lot more gadgets available for users to add to enrich their live.com experience.

Also, the page maybe blank but there is a lot of pre-selected content available to be added to your personalized page, well-categorized at that too.

[paulie_shanna]

Typical (?)

Windows Live just shows that MS cannot (and will not) thikn beyond the desktop hegemony that they lord over ... This Windows Live thing is primitive, boring and is only re-packaging stuff i can get elsewhere. What is the point?

It looks like Redmond still has learned nothing from watching Apple redefine the computing experience in the last five years ... Watch out MS or you'll miss out on a seat on the couch ...

[Rolndubbs]

Redefine

What has been "Redefined" in the past 5 years? Nothing truly innovative has come from any OS in years. They all basically do the same thing, some are prettier, some are more secure, but none have done anything that truly sets themselves apart from each other. The majority of computer users aren't techies, they are simply people who want to surf the internet, download some music, and do word processing and use apps like Money to manage their savings accounts. All of this has been available for a lot longer than 5 years. There has been nothing released that has truly "redefined" the end user experience. I would argue that P2P was a true change in how people used the internet, but since it is systematically being wiped out, I guess that won't last.

[Tanjore]

Mac Redifined the computing?

Now they have moved to Intel chips. Wonder if you ever will get OSX for old macs! I guess that Apple redifined great moving from one chip to another.

I agree Apple hardware looks slick and works great. But it is almost 30% more expensive!!

[SystemsJunky]

Uh-Hum

Paul -

Microsoft is the couch.

[Stating]

Night Of The Live(ing) Dead

"They keep coming back in a bloodthirsty lust for HUMAN FLESH!"

Windows (un)Live doesn't seem to work with Firefox, Opera, or Netscape. Doesn't work on Widows Pocket PC 2003 SE2 either, although that release is over a year old now, and apparantly ready for the dustbin. I'm sure all this incompatability was just an oversight on the part of Microsoft Engineers, and will be rectalfied post haste.

As for how this Live thingy with gadgets, widgets, midgets, etc., is better than My Yahoo, which does work on Firefox, Opera, Netscape, and Pocket PC 2003, well, I guess I'm just missing something. I must go now, I am late for my re-education camp meeting.

[Lord Kalthorn]

Shouldn't be using Firefox in the first place

But if Start.com works in Firefox, then Live.com will in time too. I have been developing for the web for a long time, but still when I make a site there is always something wrong with it in Firefox. Some of them, I cannot fix, simply because to fix it it would mean degrading the design for everybody with sense.

[SystemsJunky]

Windows Live

Does work on other browsers. I tryed it with FF, Flock, Opera and Safari. Works fine on all no problem. PPC 03 doesnt support CSS but 5.0 will, the upgrade is only 30 bucks if your device supports it. Just do that if you want it on your mobile.

[Tanjore]

I does seem to work with Firefox

It does work with firefox. Including drag and drop!!!.

[Norseman]

What's up with you, Microsoft?!?

It seems to me that the live.com site and the presentation that tried to explain the whole "live" concept look like an amateur effort that was thrown together in about a week.

Bill Gates's PowerPoint bullet charts and "cloud" diagrams were truly pathetic. Is this the best that the world's richest man and his powerful corporation can do?

This whole "new thing" appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to Google and Yahoo that has not been thought through at all. The old, failed ideas are being recycled and thrown together with existing stuff to come up with something that Microsoft hopes will get them off the bench and into the ballgame.

[Stating]

Exactly What I Thought

The live.com site does look amateurish, like something a Comp Sci 100 student would do. The Weather Forecast gadget doesn't work either. No matter what city name you put in, it says "city not found".

[Thunder Johny]

Google and Yahoo

http://www.analogstereo.com/jaguar_xk8_owners_manual.htm

[Blito]

Stateless Linux will crush Windows Live

Free software rules!

[Tanjore]

hahaha!!!

Stateless Linux!!!

[Blito]

More lies from the tablecloth

I am beyond tired of this marketing hype. Please
CNET stop reporting on redundant crap like this.

[Thunder Johny]

redundant cr*p

http://www.analogstereo.com/audi_rs6_owners_manual.htm

[rcrusoe]

Windows Live? Think Desperate

Is it just me, or does everything Microsoft do lately show a major
level of desperation?

Yes, they will continue to sell tons of desktop os for many more
years. But as slow as MS is to identify trends (the internet was "a
fad" in 95) they now seem to realize the days of what OS you run
is fast becoming irrelevant. And don't know what to do about it.

Apple and Google are leading the way but MS has apparently
even lost it's ability to copy someone else's ideas.

[thedreaming]

Playing Catchup

Microsoft is doing what everyone else is doing, whatever google just did. Their live.com looks alot like what google already provides. Their virtual earth demo looks alot like google maps and their new windows live mail will have 2 gigs of space for each user, just like google already provides.

Microsoft always wanted to sell services and subscriptions rather than shrinkwrap software. There's more money in it, but it's taken them a long time to finally start moving in that direction.

I wonder how long it will take them to get it right?

[Tanjore]

What is equivalent to live.com from Google?

What is equivalent to live.com from Google?

Google Sidebar - Desktop Application
Google Earth - Desktop Application
Picasa - Desktop Application

[Tanjore]

There is money in advertising.

There seems to be money made in advertising. Why give up all the pie to google. What is happening is called competition and it is good for us as customers, as we will have choice.

The market will eventually decide the winner.

[Norseman]

What Microsoft need to "learn"

Of all the things Microsoft has "learned" from Apple (I'm trying to
be kind, OK?!), they missed one of the most important--the idea of
keeping a product under wraps until it is WORKING, and working
well! This latest fiasco of announcing "Fill-in-the-Blank Live" and
crowing about how great it is when it is still in a half-a$$ed state
makes them appear really stupid. (I'm sorry. I meant "inept".)

[Rolndubbs]

Beta

In case you have trouble reading, it clearly states on the live.com website. Beta testing often does not include the completed/finished product, and is simply a way for the developers to get feedback on certain aspects, and to do stress tests. So while it is in beta, don't expect a complete product. If it still looks like it does now with the finished product, then complain away.

[katamari]

What?

Let confusion begin.

I'm not sure exactly how STABILITY and APPLE go hand-in-hand. If you'd like, I can post a good 20 or 30 examples of software for OS X (that comes with the OS, such as Safari) that fail miserably and act more like beta (or even alpha) software than they do "stable" software. I'm talking about regular application crashes every couple of hours.

Of course, the reality is that all software is beta and there is no "stable". I wish consumers would realise this. Simultaneously, no, it doesn't remove responsibility from the authors of the code, but end-users need to realise that there is no such thing as a "stable" application.

So please, don't make this into an Apple vs. Microsoft thing, because Microsoft's bizarro ideas as to what "the world needs" are just as out-of-whack as Apples'.

[Earl Benser]

Windows Live is DOA...

... as far as I am concerned. Nothing offered is new. and most if not
all is already available using other software, including many non-
MS options. And since I have found no serious use for Hotmail, IM,
RSS, or other parts of MSN, It would seem that WIndows Live is
definitely not my thing.


If it's your thing, go for it!!!