Comments on: Sun looks for users running rival OSes

Java Enterprise System server middleware now supports Windows and HP-UX and Sun has a new plan to expand its Java Desktop System to more Linux flavors.

[hutchike]

Write once, run anywhere?

I thought Java was sold as "write once, run anywhere" - so how come it has taken years to get this working on Linux, Windows, and not yet on Windows Server? Am I missing something?

Yep, you're missing something.

The servers are mostly written in C/C++ code. In fact most of the product is actually Netscape's old software server.

The only major thing written in Java is the overall installation software, and it's got to be the worst piece of software around. And since installation is always different on different OSes, it takes a long time to port, even in Java.

It's called Java Enterprise Server because of pure marketing gimmicks. Just like Java Desktop System. JDS was Suse Linux with Scaroffice and Mozilla combined into a happy marketing package. That is why it failed.

Also, JES for HP and Windows was outsourced. The outsourcing group was a complete joke, so it took a long time.

Java - run anywhere ?

Kevin

Think this is the whole suite of Sun infrastructure software that while branded 'Java' isn't actually all written in Java. So it naturally takes a while to port.

Jeff

[hutchike]

Write once, run anywhere?

I thought Java was sold as "write once, run anywhere" - so how come it has taken years to get this working on Linux, Windows, and not yet on Windows Server? Am I missing something?

Yep, you're missing something.

The servers are mostly written in C/C++ code. In fact most of the product is actually Netscape's old software server.

The only major thing written in Java is the overall installation software, and it's got to be the worst piece of software around. And since installation is always different on different OSes, it takes a long time to port, even in Java.

It's called Java Enterprise Server because of pure marketing gimmicks. Just like Java Desktop System. JDS was Suse Linux with Scaroffice and Mozilla combined into a happy marketing package. That is why it failed.

Also, JES for HP and Windows was outsourced. The outsourcing group was a complete joke, so it took a long time.

Java - run anywhere ?

Kevin

Think this is the whole suite of Sun infrastructure software that while branded 'Java' isn't actually all written in Java. So it naturally takes a while to port.

Jeff