Comments on: Ballmer: High-end Windows, Office coming

Microsoft's CEO tells analysts that higher-priced versions of its core products are on tap.

[Sam Papelbon]

unoriginal

honda already does this with acura. when will microsoft has an original idea? preferably one made up of letters that aren't already in the alphabet, otherwise they would be unoriginally plagiarizing whoever wrote the alphabet. shame on microsoft for copying honda. M(dollarsign) has gone too far this time! but i will not trade in my accord for an upscale copy of microsoft. because i am an elite honda purist and anything microsoft is anti-honda and evil.

[nmcphers]

re:unoriginal

not the best attempt at sarcasm I've seen. You can do better. Make it more funny, and less winy.

[Sam Papelbon]

unoriginal

honda already does this with acura. when will microsoft has an original idea? preferably one made up of letters that aren't already in the alphabet, otherwise they would be unoriginally plagiarizing whoever wrote the alphabet. shame on microsoft for copying honda. M(dollarsign) has gone too far this time! but i will not trade in my accord for an upscale copy of microsoft. because i am an elite honda purist and anything microsoft is anti-honda and evil.

[nmcphers]

re:unoriginal

not the best attempt at sarcasm I've seen. You can do better. Make it more funny, and less winy.

[R. U. Sirius]

Gimme a break Stevie-Bob

Steve, I have news for you. You have already lost the web wars. Google and Yahoo won it a long time back. Everyone is hip to your old bully tactics and the market has adjusted baby. You guys are stuck with no where to do but down.

Have a long way to go to win the web

"We have won on the desktop," Ballmer said. "Now we really are
going to win on the Web."

LOL. You could start by supporting web standards. CSS1 was
standardized in 1996 (9 years ago!) and it's still not fully supported
in IE. 90%+ of the web designers see IE as the bane of the web. You
could start by fixing that.

70% Market Share by 2010

Sirius, I think you're correct. I can see a scenario where MS will be at 70% market share in the OS space in five years. I just don't see how they can possibly get around Linux and the newly open sourced Solaris.

[R. U. Sirius]

Gimme a break Stevie-Bob

Steve, I have news for you. You have already lost the web wars. Google and Yahoo won it a long time back. Everyone is hip to your old bully tactics and the market has adjusted baby. You guys are stuck with no where to do but down.

Have a long way to go to win the web

"We have won on the desktop," Ballmer said. "Now we really are
going to win on the Web."

LOL. You could start by supporting web standards. CSS1 was
standardized in 1996 (9 years ago!) and it's still not fully supported
in IE. 90%+ of the web designers see IE as the bane of the web. You
could start by fixing that.

70% Market Share by 2010

Sirius, I think you're correct. I can see a scenario where MS will be at 70% market share in the OS space in five years. I just don't see how they can possibly get around Linux and the newly open sourced Solaris.

[Earl Benser]

if nothing else....

..... , MS has no intentions of going broke. It will be interesting
to read serious comments on the balance of price versus
performance for the golden eggs MS is about to lay.

It seems that these items aren't meant for anyone below
corporate level, so the typical Windows user can keep his wallet
in his pocket. And at the corporate level, Blaalmer seems to
admit that Linux/Unix dominates over anything Windows. This
may be a tight fight to MS.

One thing I will definitely avoid is buying any cell phone with MS
software on it. All I want is a cell phone that works as a phone. It
doesn;t have to do anything else - I don't want it to do anything
else. ANd it's not just MS software- I don't want anyone else's
software either, except for the basic phione functions.

Ballmer Knows He's in Trouble

Enterprise editions of Office. Enterprise editions of Windows. What on Earth can they add to these already overbloated pieces of code that will cause CIO's to rush out and spend more money on Microsoft products?

We're witnessing the beginning of a long downhill slide for Microsoft. They are unfocused. They are putting out products that have zero/zip/nada innovative features.

Many of us loyal Windows users are beginning to bolt for Linux and OSX, and once we're gone we ain't a comin' back.

But Earl

It's the corporate level (enterprises) that have the resources to transition to another OS. I've spent my career working at places with 1,000's of desktops & those people WILL consider an alternative (Red Hat ?) if XP Pro gets too expensive - they will go. It's my dear old mum who won't move. She got XP pro in a store sale ( I told her that I find Pro to be more stable). She just won't buy ANY new OS.

P.S. Got my new cell phone last night. Instructions on how to place a call are on page 22 of the instructions - all the important stuff like how to take a picture or set up wallpaper come on the first 21 pages ;-)

[Earl Benser]

if nothing else....

..... , MS has no intentions of going broke. It will be interesting
to read serious comments on the balance of price versus
performance for the golden eggs MS is about to lay.

It seems that these items aren't meant for anyone below
corporate level, so the typical Windows user can keep his wallet
in his pocket. And at the corporate level, Blaalmer seems to
admit that Linux/Unix dominates over anything Windows. This
may be a tight fight to MS.

One thing I will definitely avoid is buying any cell phone with MS
software on it. All I want is a cell phone that works as a phone. It
doesn;t have to do anything else - I don't want it to do anything
else. ANd it's not just MS software- I don't want anyone else's
software either, except for the basic phione functions.

Ballmer Knows He's in Trouble

Enterprise editions of Office. Enterprise editions of Windows. What on Earth can they add to these already overbloated pieces of code that will cause CIO's to rush out and spend more money on Microsoft products?

We're witnessing the beginning of a long downhill slide for Microsoft. They are unfocused. They are putting out products that have zero/zip/nada innovative features.

Many of us loyal Windows users are beginning to bolt for Linux and OSX, and once we're gone we ain't a comin' back.

But Earl

It's the corporate level (enterprises) that have the resources to transition to another OS. I've spent my career working at places with 1,000's of desktops & those people WILL consider an alternative (Red Hat ?) if XP Pro gets too expensive - they will go. It's my dear old mum who won't move. She got XP pro in a store sale ( I told her that I find Pro to be more stable). She just won't buy ANY new OS.

P.S. Got my new cell phone last night. Instructions on how to place a call are on page 22 of the instructions - all the important stuff like how to take a picture or set up wallpaper come on the first 21 pages ;-)

[sanenazok]

Just make sure you have actual NEW features

in the "Enterprise" version. I hope that the highest end version will have *new*, enterprise-only features (like some SQL server built in). Otherwise the approach apparently favored by Microsoft is to make higher end versions by releasing crippled lower end ones. Just like what differentiates XP Home and Pro - Home has NOTHING extra for the home user, it's just crippled Pro - same with Pro, it's basically 2K with a new look nothing specific for the professional market that isn't there for the home market.

[sanenazok]

Just make sure you have actual NEW features

in the "Enterprise" version. I hope that the highest end version will have *new*, enterprise-only features (like some SQL server built in). Otherwise the approach apparently favored by Microsoft is to make higher end versions by releasing crippled lower end ones. Just like what differentiates XP Home and Pro - Home has NOTHING extra for the home user, it's just crippled Pro - same with Pro, it's basically 2K with a new look nothing specific for the professional market that isn't there for the home market.

[cschlise]

Where's Open Office

Don't really care about next verision of Microsoft's Office. Been using 2000 for a long time now and don't have a reason to upgrade to fill MS's coffers. I'm waiting for OOo 2.0. Once that's out, I'll never buy another MS office suite again....btw, when the hell is OOo 2.0 coming out???

[t8]

Exactly

Who in their right mind would pay for MS Office when there is Open Office. It's free, good, and reads MS proprietry b/s formats.

[System Tyrant]

OOo or Wordperfect 12

Currently I have both WordPerfect 12 and OOo 2 beta on my computer. I am a die hard WordPerfect user these days, but I had some problems with a Word doc so I downloaded OOo 2 beta and it opened fine.

Personally, I have never liked the way Word and OpenOffice worked. You have to do quite a bit to get a little done. And neither are true WYSIWYG document editors. WordPerfect has had it's problems and will, like all software, have some more, but over all I find it to be better than OOo and Word.

If I had to choose between Word or OpenOffice I would choose OpenOffice. As far as I can tell you can do just about anything in it that you can do in Word. I'm sure some of the higher end features in Word you can't do in OpenOffice, but for basic document setup OpenOffice does a fine job. WordPerfect does a faster and better job, but for the money OpenOffice is good.

[cschlise]

Where's Open Office

Don't really care about next verision of Microsoft's Office. Been using 2000 for a long time now and don't have a reason to upgrade to fill MS's coffers. I'm waiting for OOo 2.0. Once that's out, I'll never buy another MS office suite again....btw, when the hell is OOo 2.0 coming out???

[t8]

Exactly

Who in their right mind would pay for MS Office when there is Open Office. It's free, good, and reads MS proprietry b/s formats.

[System Tyrant]

OOo or Wordperfect 12

Currently I have both WordPerfect 12 and OOo 2 beta on my computer. I am a die hard WordPerfect user these days, but I had some problems with a Word doc so I downloaded OOo 2 beta and it opened fine.

Personally, I have never liked the way Word and OpenOffice worked. You have to do quite a bit to get a little done. And neither are true WYSIWYG document editors. WordPerfect has had it's problems and will, like all software, have some more, but over all I find it to be better than OOo and Word.

If I had to choose between Word or OpenOffice I would choose OpenOffice. As far as I can tell you can do just about anything in it that you can do in Word. I'm sure some of the higher end features in Word you can't do in OpenOffice, but for basic document setup OpenOffice does a fine job. WordPerfect does a faster and better job, but for the money OpenOffice is good.

[ehinkle]

Hey, Steve, how about what we really need? A LOWER-priced version.

Oh, that's right, I forgot. Microsoft does not have a monopoly, and even if they did, they certainly wouldn't abuse that market power.

Come on, open source!

[ehinkle]

Hey, Steve, how about what we really need? A LOWER-priced version.

Oh, that's right, I forgot. Microsoft does not have a monopoly, and even if they did, they certainly wouldn't abuse that market power.

Come on, open source!

[Mumbles]

Higher Priced?

I thought that MS office was already high priced.

[Mumbles]

Higher Priced?

I thought that MS office was already high priced.

[Sentinel]

Where's my coffee cup?

MS Office is already one of the most expensive office products out there. And they are going to charge yet even more? I expect that there will be many many new features that actually want to make me upgrade. I expect there will even be a small mechanical hand that comes out of the CD Drive and serves me coffee in a cup. But knowing MS, there will probably be only interface changes (it will look more "cool"), and a few obscure features which only corporate clients may (or may not) have a use for, and hopefully they will remove Clippy.

If no such new features are included, I expect they won't boost sales like they expect. In fact, when is raising the prices a way to increase sales? I'd never heard of that. "Come to our clearance sale. Don't enjoy rebates. All items marked up 25%". Just hilarous.

[Sentinel]

Where's my coffee cup?

MS Office is already one of the most expensive office products out there. And they are going to charge yet even more? I expect that there will be many many new features that actually want to make me upgrade. I expect there will even be a small mechanical hand that comes out of the CD Drive and serves me coffee in a cup. But knowing MS, there will probably be only interface changes (it will look more "cool"), and a few obscure features which only corporate clients may (or may not) have a use for, and hopefully they will remove Clippy.

If no such new features are included, I expect they won't boost sales like they expect. In fact, when is raising the prices a way to increase sales? I'd never heard of that. "Come to our clearance sale. Don't enjoy rebates. All items marked up 25%". Just hilarous.

[ss_Whiplash]

Nothing to stop them.

When you're the only game in town, you can charge whatever you want. Windows XP Pro and Office together cost more than what you can buy the hardware to run it on for. It's rediculous.

[ss_Whiplash]

Nothing to stop them.

When you're the only game in town, you can charge whatever you want. Windows XP Pro and Office together cost more than what you can buy the hardware to run it on for. It's rediculous.

[Jonathan]

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I can't wait for $500 Latehorn and $1200 Office

I can't wait to see the gremlins gobbling up $500 copies of
Latehorn at Best Buy because it's so amazing and wonderful and
"completely new". Then we will see Office for Enterprise at $1200.
The only difference? A business using Office now needs to
purchase an enterprise license to use the software. Muahahaha.

While the Mac people who purcahsed Tiger for $60 and Office:Mac
for $149 laugh all the way to the bank.

[Scott W]

free software

the biggest laugh is when you discover that us linux users paid £0 for our software which includes the OS AND the OpenOffice.org suite. :D