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Long-awaited versions of the OS geared for speed finally see the light of day.

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Yawn... maybe in 5 years...
by scdecade April 25, 2005 6:49 AM PDT
MS's 64 bit OS ought to be ready for production use in about 2010 or later. At least after the second or third service pack. Even then you probably still wouldn't want it to touch the internet. Then again, if it uses mulitple CPU's as (in)efficiently as Win 2003 32 bit the extra memory addressability will probably be a complete waste.

Anybody using this hair wad as a server OS needs to have their head examined.
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Running from the Tiger?
by Llib Setag April 25, 2005 9:47 AM PDT
After years & years of vaporware promises & beta-junk 64Win wannabes, MS finally gets it out for release, even though 64 bit chips are not a new thing in the PC, MAC or UNIX world...

Hmmmmmmmm.... Apple is releasing a new 64 Bit TIGER OSX in four days which it has be "premiering" to developers & public at Conventions for the already existing single & dual 64 bit IBM PowerPC processor Macintosh G5's on the MAC OSX Unix platform...

"coinscidence", Citizen Gates?
Sounds like a cheap game of "CAT" "mouse" from Redmond.

It's also very "coinscidental" that CNET while annoncing the pending release of Mac OSX TIGER, failed to mention that it was a 64 BIT UNIX OS for consumer desktops & servers...

But Citizen Gates finally releases their 64Beta as "public" (not) AND WOW! HISTORY IN THE MAKING WITH 64-BIT OS FOR THE MASSES!
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"amazing"
by April 25, 2005 10:23 AM PDT
It's "amazing" how "pompous" someone can "seem" when using "multiple" "quotations" to illustrate a "point" that has no "basis" in "fact".

How long do you think it takes to program for 64-bit architecture? Do you think it's a possibility that both ms and apple took about the same amount of time to bring out their 64-bit systems from it's initial adoption for the desktop market?
I love how elitist apple people (not all mac people are elitist, just people like this guy) turn everything into a release schedule contest.
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Shame...
by Andrew J Glina April 25, 2005 10:05 PM PDT
...that even with a dual 64 bit chip system Apple could not convicingly beat an equivalent Windows system that cost less. To make it worse it took legal action for them to stop making the claim that it was.
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Crecit where credit is due...
by April 26, 2005 2:15 PM PDT
Tiger aside, 64-bit operating systems are
nothing new. The Tru64 UNIX OS was available a
decade ago. Even Linux has had 64-bit support
(including 64-bit AMD support) for years.

Linux also has an edge on drivers over Tiger and
Windows -- in part because they are easily
ported with a simple recompile in most cases.
Users of Linux have the same hardware support in
the 64-bit platforms as they do on the 32-bit
platforms -- not so under Windows (but mostly so
under OS/X).

In the US, Linux does not count as "for the
masses", but in many places outside the US it
certainly does.
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Oh yeah, sixty-four bits
by April 25, 2005 11:44 AM PDT
Can't wait for those 64 bit Windumps, viruses and spyware.

I wonder if they can still get all that register info to display on a blue screen of death?
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XP 64Bit for what?
by biggstuu April 25, 2005 12:17 PM PDT
Its kinda obvious that this release will usher in the release of 64bit procs on new PC's, im just wondering though, what/how will the average PC user benefit from a 64bit Office/IE, etc. Am i to imagine also that no HDD sizes will be 500GB/1TB sizes now, so that we can all have SQL databases to so that we can manage our information? IMHO,this is updating for updating sakes. WINTEL did an excellent job selling people on the proc speed argument and now that it appears we are staring at a 4GHZ ceiling for some time, its on to the next buzz word.
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Better response to memory leaks...
by April 26, 2005 2:24 PM PDT
If you read Microsoft's site about the 64-bit
Windows, they point out that apps like IIS will
be more stable because memory leaks in IIS will
take longer to reach the point where they cause
it to die off.
BSOD at the speed of light...
by Llib Setag April 27, 2005 6:29 PM PDT
Now you can get the Blue Screen Of Death at the speed of light! Great innovation Citizen Gates!
That Master Innovator Bill Gates Strikes Again
by April 25, 2005 1:07 PM PDT
Funny how Cnet has massive headlines for a MS announcement about a 64 bit OS, but barely a whimper is to be heard about Apple's Tiger. I've contributed enough to Mr. Gates and his empire over past few years, so I don't need media cheerleading extoling the genius that is Microsoft.

I recently bought a Mac, and have been impressed. It wasn't what I was expecting. Given the usual media coverage, I expected to boot it up and find myself in LegoLand. Instead, I found a modern OS capable of networking, grid computing, SAN, and security for day one. I'm not getting rid of my PC's mind you, but the experience makes me wonder why Cnet seems to want to represent Apple in a negative light?
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MS - Longhorn: C/Net - Black hole
by Llib Setag April 25, 2005 1:22 PM PDT
Why all the attention to the NEW & IMPROVED 64BIT XP FROM TELETUBBIE XP-LAND IN REDMOND FROM C/NET?

Follow the money...Deep Throat:

Why is there so much attention paid to this vaporware next comming of the almighty omnipedent
Citizen Gates?

Follow the money... All the Ads, banner ads, pop up ads on every single page you open in CNET is loaded with Win, Wintel, WintelDell, visionary statements from Citizen Gates.....

CNET knows who they sold their souls to & the are bowing down to their master Citizen Gates.

"Pay no attention to all that Unix, Linux, OSX 64 bit stuff out there, just keep your eyes forward at the almighty Wizard of Bull (Longhorn)".

Tiger OSX 64 bit consumer desktop & server OS + IBM 64 bit PowerPC Chips will devour the lame, lumbering Longhorn before it's "scheduled" birth.
Incredible Coverage
by Andrew J Glina April 25, 2005 10:09 PM PDT
There is incredible coverage of Apple computers considering it's pathetic worldwide market penetration. For a OS with less that under 10% of the world uses, it gets at least 30% of the coverage.
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Show me the games
by Kevin Baron April 25, 2005 1:21 PM PDT
Let's be honest. Till we see 64bit games come out there is nothing to shout about. I want more lifelike games and with 64bit and dual cores half life 3 should blow the doors off the world. but this is not happening tomarrow. I welcome the tech, but i know it means very little at this moment.
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Scared tiny cowboy on a virtual bull...
by Llib Setag April 25, 2005 6:36 PM PDT
Ever seen those anti-tobacco monopoly ads by "The Truth" at truth.com?

Citizen Gates is the tiny Marlboro Man riding his virtual bull (ShortHorn) around trying to cover his tracks.
Big Tobacco & Microsoft have many things in common:
Both are obsolete relics of the past "cool age".
Both spew cancer, viruses & cause you to crash & burn.
Both have manipulated the government with their billion dollar lobbyist & power plays.
Both have lied to the Government for years about how "safe" their products are.
Both have dug their tenticles deep into the masses & make it very difficult to go "cold turkey".
Both have done whatever it takes (legally or illegally) to keep their monopolies in power & crush the other guys "butts" thereby snuffing them out & keeping their cash flow going from the little people to the corporate fat cats.
MS & Big Tobacco are both cancerous, nip them in the bud or roll your own.
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Second Opinion
by Andrew J Glina April 25, 2005 10:14 PM PDT
Actually I think that Apple and IBM are relics. What makes Apple the new kid on the block? Apple had it's time but it's obsession with excessive profit has doomed it.

Bye Bye Apple, Bye Bye
Enjoy your last Hurrah
Because you are doomed to die
Just like the hybrid car
cancer
by April 26, 2005 7:28 AM PDT
So now you can get cancer from using MS products?

Your comparison is so absurd as to be laughable.
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Your ignorance is astounding.
by April 26, 2005 12:14 PM PDT
I understand metaphor, I was an english major.
Your comparison is just extremely weak.

As far as switching to a *nix system?
Your average user is not capable of a switch like that... Unless they have a lot of time to learn a system instead of running their business. Most just don't have the time, or technical aptitude in them.
If they were THAT knowledgable, they'd not need to switch. They'd be able to do the minor steps necessary to keep their system running well(scheduled virus-scan, scheduled spyware scan, firewall.. that's it).

It's easy to resort to name-calling and mud slinging when you have nothing to say.

Btw, nice name... might as well be "anonymous"
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by April 26, 2005 1:29 PM PDT
This was supposed to be a reply to backwards bill gates.
Switching to UNIX is pretty easy...
by April 26, 2005 2:57 PM PDT
Today, there's little reason to believe that
UNIX (or Linux) systems would pose any
particular difficulty to an individual or
company. Perhaps that was true 10 years ago, but
not today. UNIX systems are increasingly
straight-forward and the UIs comparable or
easier to master than Windows (Mac OS/X and
Linux/UNIX' KDE are good examples).

The only challenge may be finding the
applications that you need. That's an entirely
different issue, and one that is also becoming
much easier today.

The principal thing holding back the alternative
environments is the impetus of the market.
People develop for Windows because customers
bought Windows. Most customers bought Windows
not by choice, but because it came with their
hardware. Should Mac or Linux reach a critical
mass where commercial development becomes more
prevalent, then Microsoft has a problem. 5 years
ago, that would be unthinkable, but today it's
far more realistic.

Certainly, if you can find the necessary
applications for Linux or OS/X, there's little
reason to select Microsoft Windows (other than
non-merit, such as you have a bunch of Windows
admins that are ignorant of non-Windows
environments, etc.).
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