Comments on: Longhorn could be tough sell for Microsoft

After five years without a major update to Windows, Microsoft will find plenty of willing buyers for Longhorn next year. Or will it?

Virus at microsoft favor

easy make a virus that take down TONS of computers before longhorn is released, and u will see how many will buy longhorn

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Fix Your Grammer

Will you? Geez, people forget how to write these days :)

[bassfisherman292]

Longhorn is just another way for Microsoft to make money

With Microsoft releasing Longhorn, it will do a lot of the same things that happened when they released 95. Older Windows Operating Systems will become obsolete and the only way for people to have access to anything is to buy a PC equipped with Longhorn. Though they claim to keep support for XP, it can be expected that by 2007 no security updates for XP will be available. XP revolutionized the PC, bringing people out of the older days, and has been the OS for almost every computer company. However, in the past few years, security and stability in XP has decreased. I have had quite a few viruses attack my computer, had to have it reformatted 3 times, 2 of them after i had upgraded from 2000 to XP professional, only to discover that the internet would not work. The last time i had it reformatted was due to some virus that caused my computer to shut off after having it on for about 2-3 minutes. Lately i have been having problems with explorer crashing or freezing and having IE and Outlook Express crash. I recently switched to using Mozilla FireFox and Thunderbird in place of IE and Outlook Express. Although they do freeze and crash every once in a while, it is not as often as the other two did.

Within the next couple of months, I plan on purchasing an Apple iBook, once Tiger is released, and turning my old PC, the one prior to the one i use now, into a Linux one. I will still keep my current PC in Windows, but will mostly use that as a base computer that i will use for Printing and such. Most likely, i won't upgrade to Longhorn, unless i find that it provides much more protection and stability. Microsoft used to be the company for computers, but in recent years, other companies have raised a battle against them, like Apple and Mozilla. I cant wait to see Microsoft fall.

[lilrazztx]

Amen...

That is why I switched to an iMac G5. Can't wait till Tiger.

Longhorn...It's whats for dinner.

ms

I very much doubt Microsoft would fall without a fight, it still has a huge grip on major organisations as well as most home users, although upgrading I doubt will happen until new machines are purchased.

[robert1275]

Upgrade Incentive

If Microsoft wishes its customers to upgrade to Longhorn then the company needs to make sure that Longhorn is sleek, sexy, and most of all affordable. In addition Microsoft needs to make sure that families are better supported with the operating system. Make Windows Longhorn a standard 2-3 license version at an affordable price or make multiple license buying for families easy to do. By 2006 most families will have 2 computers. One for the kids and one/two for adults. It is such a pain to buy a student version for the kids and then another version for the adults desktop and laptop.

[Prndll]

Are you a salesman?

You talk with the forked tongue of the typical Microsoft salesman.

[open-mind]

Those who want Longhorn....

...are already running Mac OS X. It's alreay better. And next month, Tiger will make Longhorn look outdated.

That's why Windows users dread new releases while OS X users anticipate them.

[Kushan]

lol

Windows users dread Mac OS releases? Windows users don't know/care about it. Windows users are not jealous of mac users - their insignificant market share is not even worth attention. Mac fanbois make me laf ;[

Here's a tip, Microsoft

Here's a tip, Microsoft:
If you want to generate enthusiam about your new os, DONT CALL IT "LONGHORN"

Rhabavvi

follow-up

or "VISTA!"

Rhabavvi

[PCCRomeo]

Sure I'll upgrade....

....Maybe. Depends on if I have the money I have nothing else to do with.

[Bill Dautrive]

If you have the extra cash to burn on Longhorn

Just burn the cash. That will be more productive.

[Kushan]

Says the child to the man.

e clock speed thing is all you have? And I thought the other guy was dumb. The Apple did not include a monitor, had a single 1.8ghz CPU, 256mb of memory and GF 5200. At the same price point, the Dell had a monitor, free shipping, 1GB of memory and a 3.2ghz CPU. You are telling me that the added 768mb of memory would have no effect on system performance? Or that a 6800 vs. a 5200 would have no advantages in games? And certainly getting a monitor is not worthy of mention.

While I agree that clock speed is not an exact measurement, PLEASE point me to an unbiased benchmark where a 1.8 GHz Power processor can outperform a 3.2gh p4. While a 1.8ghgz Power processor would certainly outperform a P4 of the same clock speed, you are going to have a very hard time convincing the world that a 1.8 GHz Power processor will outperform a 3.2 GHz P4. Also, the 1.8 GHz processor in the budget model i referred to is the cut down version - it has a 600 MHz FSB vs. the 900mhz of its bigger brother. Below is a link to a benchmark comparing a 3.2 GHz P4 to various systems.
<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112749,pg,8,00.asp</a>

So if a 3.2gh can hold its own vs. dual 2.0 GHz Power CPU's then what can it do vs. a cut down single 1.8 GHz CPU? You sure showed your knowledge... lol

It is people like you that cause me to doubt the theory of evolution - while it is scientifically sound, if it were true people like you would have accidentally killed themselves off long ago.

You state: "OSX is far and beyond XP, there is no real comparison. Longhorn is constantly getting features taken out, that there is no way it will be able to mathc even OSX. Add in the fact that MS couldn't produce a reasonably secure simple program, there is nothing worthwhile to upgrade to"
Yes, OSX is far and beyond. Considering MS has not released a new windows since 01 this is a HUGE surprise! Really good reasoning there. When XP was released, the Mac OS of that time was not light years ahead of XP. 4 years without releasing something new will do that.

"Longhorn is constantly getting features taken out,that there is no way it will be able to mathc even OSX". A few features were cut back. You have NO IDEA what else is in the OS. No one has any real information on the new OS - you can't compare current products to something you know NOTHING about. While your spelling and grammar make it a tad hard to get the gist of what you are attempting to say, I take it to mean is that you are comparing two items - one of which you know absolutely NOTHING about. My interpretation of your gibberish must be incorrect - it is completely impossible to compare two products when you don't know anything about one and reach a logical conclusion. Yes, I must be wrong. Surely you did not just spew that unintelligible, biased, fanboi crap.

You accuse me of being a fanboi...? I'd tell you to "grow some more useful brain matter" but I am fairly sure that is impossible. You might try it anyway, though.

Other than my previously mentioned quibbles about Apple and Mac, I actually thing it is a good thing. While I will never pay money for one due to the reasons I stated, I see nothing wrong with it for the average user with some spare cash. However, for the user who likes a good balance of price and performance, or who doesn't like being confined to whatever hardware the manufacturer decides to sell him, a PC with Linux and Windows on it is the better alternative.

[Earl Benser]

It's your choice...

You like MS and WinWhatever and the PC, Fine. That's oranges. I
like apples. I've got 5 PC's running Win2K (1) qnd WInXP (4).
They're nice, but not impressive. If I have a business program to
run, the PC's may get used, but oitherwise, I do all my serious
computer work on a fleet of Mac's ( OS9 (1) and OSX (5
including a Mac Mini).

And that's what it's all about. You can quote specs until you're
blue in the face and no one really cares. You can talk security,
and no one really cares (unless you been recently burned). You
can talk apps 'til hell freezes over, and the only significant item
is which platform the app runs on. All the rest of the srguments
are wasted horn blowing that no one else cares about.

So we should all just shut up and make our statements with our
money. Nothing else makes any difference, at least to most
people. And there is nothing that has been said that is even
remotely going to change anyone's mind.

Just consider everyone else to be a mindless lemming. You won't
go far wrong.

2005, the year of Apple and Unix

Apple to Micro$oft: 'We have the iPod trojan horse in place, and now we're going to start taking away your customers.'
If you've honestly ever used OSX, you know it's a very quick and responsive OS, compared to an overpatched XP/pc which tend to sit and grind and grind and grind and...... 'nuff said.

[City_Of_LA]

LOL. you all will upgrade...

to Longhorn at thats a fact. No need for me to elaborate on that. Let meet up again here in 2 years and let me know what MS OS version you are using.

You bunch are just too curious not to upgrade.

[hion2000]

No need.

Linux rules. Seriously.

If you can get over the learning curve, and have enough vendor support for your hardware, Linux beats Windows hands down.

I've had computers running for years where a single dollar hasn't been spent on Microsoft, let alone any software!

Whos Tired of Bib Dillanony

Whos for replacing her with a program that automatically replies
to everyone's messages with stuff like:

"And you don't sell things why don't you buy an mac for $4,000
:)"

[owenowen3]

Shareware

I sure as hell wont buy another Microsoft OS that has the activation feature. lets face it, it's shareware. I don't care how they want to spin it.Piracy overseas is the supposed reason that they did it in the first place. I had to format twice and I was told that I wouldn't have to talk to anyone when I reactivated the program if I didn't have any major hardware changes. I didn't have any changes at all and guess what, I was on the phone both friggen times. Same registration info, the works. Needless to say, the people I talked to were not happy to talk with me. I vented a little to much, but they deserve it.

Microsoft had me so mad I cancelled a large Office buy last month.

[Bill Dautrive]

Just wait..

..until you have reinstalled one too many times. There is a limit on how many times you can activate the same copy of windows, regardless of whether it is the same machine or not.

That happened to me a few months and they tried to sucker me into buying a new license. I guess some people are stupid enough. When that happens to you, and it will, if you do regular installs to clean out the muck that invariably gets in the regitry, or swap out hardware; call up the activation nmber and you can get another ID to start over with for free. Granted, people should not have to jump through hoops with software bought and paid for, but this is Microsoft after all.

Don't yell at the grunts on the phone, they don't deserve it. Too bad there isn't a hotline to the idiots that deserve earful.

Imagine if MS put in the time, effort and money that they do to screw over honest customers, and pour it into making solid products that aren't bug riddled. They wouldn't be the huge joke that they are today and maybe more then a few braindead idiots might like them.

[Chicago Brian]

I Don't Give a Heck what you say Any Improvement is an Improvement...

I Don't Give a Heck what you say Any Improvement is an Improvement...