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Firm made "mistake" to promise more than it could deliver with new system, top Windows exec tells CNET News.com.

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Ooh, did they invent a new particle, too?
by godofbiscuits--2008 December 10, 2004 2:01 PM PST
A data structure that hasn't existed before?

This is just the next layer of FUD. meta-FUD, if you will, which
is ironic.

Such crap.
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well...
by December 10, 2004 3:23 PM PST
MS doesn't seem to know much about data strucures anyway, so it isn't surprising they would claim they are inventing a new one.

For proof, look no further then their attempt to patent FAT. Apparently they think they invented the array of pointers idea.
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I've seen it... have you?
by Jeff Putz December 10, 2004 9:43 PM PST
I've seen WinFS. Have you? If you haven't, then I don't think you're really qualified to comment on what it may or may not do.
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If there ever was a window of opportunity for Apple, it's now
by olePigeon December 10, 2004 4:53 PM PST
With WinFS being the single most important advancement to the
Windows operating system, and it not making it into the OS (if
even by the end of the decade), Apple really has an opportunity
gain some serious marketshare with OS X and OS X Server.
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Of course...
by Jeff Putz December 10, 2004 9:42 PM PST
Yeah, because users everywhere are standing up and saying, "Oh wow, I'd love a new file system."

You don't need to work a help desk to know people don't care.
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Get Real.
by Jonathan December 11, 2004 3:01 PM PST
HA! God I love these gleam of hope comments. Do you realize how many computers Apple sells vs. the industry? A pathetic amount. I want Apple to do well but lets be realistic here. The way Apple sells their wares and does their business in general is geared towards a niche market solution. You can quote me on this in the future. Apple will NEVER again have double digit market share numbers. Hell they will be lucky to get even 5% of the market. And don?t give me this crap about market share numbers not mattering (A common theme now a days for Mac users who are defending Apple.) Market share numbers do indeed matter. For the developer it matters because of which platform stands a better chance of distrusting their wares better. For the enterprise/business sector it matters for long term stability to KNOW that your platform will be there in 10 years. Apple MIGHT do well in a small business environment but even then 1.5-2% market share should make anyone look VERY long and VERY hard at their decision.
Look I want Apple to do well but the fact of the matter is they don?t have a distribution channel setup to handle mass sales. My biggest wet dream is for Apple to team up with Dell and have Dell make a low end, bottom of the barrel, computers that replaces the out of date and dilapidated eMac. Dell has the distribution methods to kick ***. Apple would continue to sell mid and high end devices like the PowerMac and the (crappy performance wise) PowerBooks.
If Apple could open themselves up they could potentially get to a 10% market share again. But lets be frank here. There is no way in hell they are going to do that. Apple is chicken **** when it comes to new corp approaches to business. I think it was an act of god that Apple even released iTunes for Windows. Handing part of their desktop line to someone else. Jobs would cut off his hands first. Consequently when Longhorn does ship and its found to be a robust, stable, environment. Apple is screwed. Longhorn has been a massive cluster **** from MS. Yes. Over promises and whatnot. The thing is this time MS listened to their developers. They dropped the crap that simply could not be added to Longhorn. They ARE focusing on security this time. If MS actually does this right (I give a 50/50 chance.) Apple could see market share fall further. The big reason Apple is nabbing sales right now is patches, viruses, worms, etc. Some of the feature I?ve seen in longhorn go a LONG way to rectifying this situation. Will it be an end all be all cure? Not a chance in heck. But if it plugs the majority of sec issues it may make people reconsider which is BAD for Apple. Like it or not Apple has until Fall of ?06 Spring of ?07 to capture market share. After that all bets are off.
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You have to love it...
by December 11, 2004 11:03 AM PST
Microsoft made all of these promises for all of these new wonderful features in Longhorn and now not only are the delaying Longhorn herself they are constantly chipping away at the new features until there is nothing left. And, then Microsoft higher ups sit around after launch and wonder why people aren't upgrading.

Give me a break. The releases between major OS updates to long and really lack much incentive to update. If you count service packs as major updates they even fail there too. SP2 did little more than cause problems for people. It still has security holes. So what the hell was the point.

As for Apple, different company same monopolistic attitude. Until they allow Apple clones so that prices can be lowever they are just as bad as Microsoft. They get away with because they simply don't have the marketshare. There aren't enough people using it for them to create a ralling cry. They are almost as pathetic.

Robert
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Apple Clones?
by December 11, 2004 5:07 PM PST
The old saying "you get what you pay for" is especially true with computers. You can have the "c heap" computers, I will stay with my Apple and OSX. I bet in the long run you will end up spending more than me.
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More...
by December 14, 2004 5:54 AM PST
I agree with you on the win stuff.

Apple cannot clone their technology becasue that would dilute their ability to target their already small customer base and eliminate the advantage they have with their proprietary technologies.

They tried cloning in the early nineties and it took the company to the brink of extinction.
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Gotta Love It!
by megalene December 28, 2004 5:35 AM PST
I love it when they post articles about Microsoft, it makes my morning to read these comments! Finally the Mac people can put down that $5 cup of coffee and post a comment about MS and the LINUX technogeeks can come out of their mothers basement and post a friendly comment on the destruction of MS.
There isnt going to be any revolution, no jump from MS to LINUX or MAC, not in 2 years or a 100 years. I am not pro Microsoft, MAC, or LINUX and actually who really cares? But I sure do enjoy reading the feud, very entertaining fellas!
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Lars
by lgmbackman December 29, 2004 11:17 AM PST
Wait and see, is a passiv "state" so look and wait, or look and act, or act do not wait, forget, forgive, wakeup, scratch your head, use it.
Well, my advice is "use your brains".
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