Comments on: Gates: Longhorn changed to make deadlines

Microsoft's chairman tells CNET News.com that the decision to remove WinFS means that "the glass is three-quarters full."

sigh

As a user of Windows since 3.1 and a recent convert to Mac OS
X, i am reading this interview with BillG and wondering what he
is on about.

Here are the main issues I have with Windows. Although I can't
confirm if these are the things that are messing with my system,
here goes anyway.

Disk fragmenting:
Why does Windows progressively get slower the more you install
and the more you save documents. Is this because of a problem
with disk fragmenting? If so, will WINFS fix this issue in the long
run?

Kernel:
I find that Windows 2000 is significantly faster on my 1 GHZ
machine than Windows XP is. And each version of Windows
seems to get fatter and buggier.

Windows Media Player:
Why is the Windows Media Player, so ugly? Is that ever going to
get fixed? Each version looks uglier and more complicated.
Heard of iTunes? Thing is a joy to use.

Windows Interface:
Still ugly and the beta snaps I have seen of Longhorn look ugly
as well. Sure beauty is a matter of opinion and the views of the
majority is the only thing you can rely on to benchmark beauty.
But most people can tell you that Linux is uglier than Windows.
Windows is uglier than Mac OSX.

Windows Crashing:
Why does Windows crash more than any Unix variant? Are they
going to fix the kernel up in Longhorn or is it going to be the
same kernel for XP? Did they change the XP kernel around from
2000 phenomenally because XP seems a lot less stable than
W2K. Why is W2003 more stable than XP or W2K?

If these problems aren't fixed, what really is the need for WinFS?
If you want to search for things with Verbs, wouldn't an
indexing system as used in Mac OS Tiger be the best solution
than rewriting the file system?

Henceforth, I think this is all marketing hype and I am going to
wait until 2007 just to get hold of an OS that's going to be
buggy, fat, slow and crash like hell just like the XP we have
today.

[Tyger13us]

Billy has lost his wagon

In op system Ive been through Dos, win3.1,95,98,98se,Me and now Xp,, M$ will Never SUPPORT one of there Op systems,, Foghorn will just turn out to be an other Winblows-Me untill M$ has to come out with SP3 fix.. 6 months later there will be the next( Greatest Thing ) in os's.. Come on Linux ( wich ive never used ) Make something that I can be a Gamer on and Play current games with and I will push the Op system to everyone I can.. We the people need something other than Billy's sand box.. This Dude needs to be put in his place and stop him from RAPEING the world, ( Forced without consent )..... Im about ready to just pull the damn plug!!!!!!......

[chiwawa]

This is reporting at its finest. WindowsME Reloaded!

You would think the CNet interviewer would at least ask the obivious question, i.e how will Lornhorn be different from WinXP, but no guess it didn't make the script.

Of the 4-5 articles here on CNet about Longhorn, not one says anything about the features left. Well thats cause there is none left!

People, I present you WindowsME Reloaded!!

What a joke.

[Catgic]

Where there are crumbs, there are bugs.

As I plowed through the Kanellos & Fried, ?Gates: Longhorn changed to make headlines? article, I started to nod off and think ho-hum thoughts of Microsoft releases past. I persevered through it only to reach the end and be greeted by Tige Sundararajan?s first-in-the-barrel posting entitled: ?Sigh.?

The Tige-ster took the ?sigh? right out of my mouth.

Please Emperor Bill, oh Great Gate[s]keeper to Cyberspace, tell us poor Cyber-Serfs what software crumbs you will have for us. Whatever your answer or non-answer may be we know from experience that where there are crumbs, there are also bugs.

Now let me get busy fixing all the operating hiccups and glitches caused on my machine by this recent SP2 download and install.

end user nightmares

Let's go with my end user perspective right now. I don't care
about any of this. I don't care about a file system that's redone
that's just marketing hyperbole. I don't care about folders being
built out of XML pages. I don't care about the 70 million lines of
code most of which I am not going to use.

Here's what I care about. I care about an OS not bogging my
system down or crashing for no reason. I care about having an
upgrade cycle of no less than three years. I care about having a
30" LCD Panel that would go easy on my eyes with a great
resolution. I care about getting access to a Unix Command
Prompt so I can compile in C, move, rename, delete folders with
ease.

I care about a beautiful interface that's fast. I care about not
having compatability problems with various software and
hardware. I care about finding my files wherever they are. I care
about having a fast browser that's constantly updated to various
new web technologies. I want everything from from my digital
camera to my iPod to my media files working together.

There's a whole school of thought that is about minimalism, art
and beauty when it comes to computers where money is just not
as important.

I don't think I should have to wait until 2007 to get an OS that
does all that without crashing.

Here are two OS's I am totally into at the moment. MorphOS and
Mac OSX. They're fast and just does stuff without crashing. I
don't think I have missed it but I would like to read up a page
that talks about the kernel in Longhorn. What changes are made.
What outdated code is left there. If they make an OS out of
scratch it would be a compelling upgrade. But, if it's just going
to be Windows XP+, hey I could ride my mac out 2007 and
beyond.

[R Me]

grey matter tansplant

"The fate of the industry hangs in the balance."

The only fate here is the coming collapse of MS. The "industry" will only hiccup a few times as MS is finally devoured chunk by failing chunk.
.NET this Bill!

[Tex Murphy PI]

End user rants - Translated!!!

Let's go with my end user perspective right now -Translation: Let me tell you what I gospel.

I don't care about any of this - As long as it is my own opinion.

Let's just get to Tige's points...
* My Mac OS is better than Windows
* My 30" LCD screen is bigger and better than yours
* My Mac OS is faster and more reliable than Windows because I never load very many programs on it
* I can use words like "Unix Command Prompt" and "Compile" to sound real technical
* The Mac interface is the best because I say it is so
* I can find files on my Mac because I don't know how to use the Start, Search feature in Windows
* I love minimalism - which is what I got for spending a ton of cash on a Mac - did I mention I have a cool 30" LCD screen?
* I'm all about Operating Systems! MorphOS, MacOS - anything but Windows. Have I impressed you with my technical opinions yet?
* Since Longhorn's kernel is not a rewrite of the 70 million lines of code in XP, it must be trash.
* Since it is impossible for MS to write a more stable and secure OS in two years for Longhorn, then the kernel must be flawed.

Distilling all this down further reveals a simple message:
Mac OSX is the best. Windows sucks. Whatever shortcomings that are mirrored between OSX and Windows (such as increasing resource requirements, defragmentation, stability tied to applications), it only affects Windows, and not OSX.

Way to go on a very "balanced", and "thoughtful" post Tige! Say, you don't happen to be running for Congress/Senate/Presidency, are you?

[Gerald Quaglia]

Still better then microcrap

Having a mac means not to have to worry about 10 new viruses
a week. Dealing with OS and browser will holes big enough to
drive a Hummer through. Satisfaction in knowing that none of
my money is ending up in the pocket of Bill Gates or that nut,
Steve Baulmer. And no activation scheme that forces me to shell
out $200+ for every computer I want to install microbloat on.

hmmmm

That's pretty much it. You got me.

My opinion. My gospel. My point of view. I don't want to convert
anybody man and W2K is one of my favorite OS's of all time. But
this is an industry I believe in and feel passionate about. When I
was a kid it all looked like it was going in a great direction.

Now it's all tainted and passionless and fat and things like winFS
and .NET are just bigtime marketing words being thrown around
that don't really mean much. And that does suck.

Creators & Critics

Have you ever noticed in all of these dicussions that "Tex" & "Unknown" are alway quick to critise, but never really offer any real comments of their own? If you are not part of the answer, you are part of the problem.
It is so obvious that they either work for Citizen Gates or own a lot of MS Stocks, or have never used any products that are not produced or ripped off by the MSMonopoly?
-Eyes wide open in Seattle-