Comments on: Ad watchdog warns Microsoft to 'Get the Facts'

Linux 10 times more expensive? U.K. standards body says company's "Get the Facts" ad campaign may be misleading.

Microsoft, you better Get The Facts

Actually, I think Linux is much metter than Windows. Why pay thousands of dollars while you can get an powerful Open Source based OS. Microsoft's Software is too expensive and you can't do things that Open Source allows you to do.

Apples with Apples (or Xeons with Xeons!)

Hmmm, either Microsoft doesn't have the technical capacity to get Linux running on a "normal" computer like the one they used for the Windows side of the test, or they are so scared they have to make shockingly silly comparisons and hope nobody notices! Linux running on a great expensive mainframe? Yes, it can do it; it has been ported to many different types of computer that may have advantages in some situations. BUT it also runs really well on exactly the same hardware as Windows. I have programmed computers since 1973; I have used Linux since, well, long ago; I like and recommend the right hardware and O/S for the job, and (as much as I love Linux) I have to admit that MS Windows is slightly faster at _some_ things. Like bringing up blue screens of death :-). And for a while the NT file syetms was faster for writes than the linux file system people normally used (there are many filesystems to choose from, but there is some justification in comparing the system you'd get by taking the default on every question in the installation process).

So Microsoft COULD have come up with a few situations where linux is/was slightly slower. Never worse value, though. We have to stop and wonder *why* they felt they had to risk the "silly" ads. If they make a big fuss saying these parameters are so important, then get creamed when the fair test results become public (and they will get much more publicity because of the ads), then MS is open to huge sales/credibility damage. I do wonder why they did it. I really don't have a sensible answer.

I ran a system with a mixture of Linux and Sun, when some US computer maker was gloating over something like $5000 per workstation Total Cost of Ownership. Ours worked out at $600 per workstation including absolutely everything - hardware, software, wages, overheads based on the fraction of the building used by the system! MTTR, uptimes, ease of training, and absolutely every hidden cost was way better than what the PC users had to suffer. Many people have similar experiences, and those primarily into reliable web serving find Windows so much further behind Linux and its close cousins that Windows looks like one of those olympic athletes getting left further and further behind the leaders. You would think Microsoft would recognise the need for the best spin doctors. Something indeed is wrong with the world when the largest company launches a campaign that is only one step away from suicidal. Next we'll hear MS use OS/2 for their library system!

[David Arbogast]

EU Needs to Back Off

Microsoft's ad claims that Windows is cheaper for file-serving operations...

and the EU claims that people may not realize that Microsoft is talking about file-serving operations?????

The EU seems a bit more abusive every time they deal with Microsoft. Either that... or they are admitting that Europeans are incapable of reading the printed text. Which we know isn't true.

EU on the right track

I've seen the ad. It's a GROSS example of twisting the facts. Linux on a 900mhz Xeon is entirely capable of operating in a manner equivilant to Windows on the same box. Instead Microsoft chose to compare to a box that can be partitioned into 100 different servers, weighs over a ton, and requires two 60AMP 220v power feeds.

[simcity1976]

but its true

it might be on a crampy piece of hardware, the test results for it on the specified hardware is true fact. of course this is how many ppl exploit others products to make there's look better. Old pratice.

It's definately unequal

It's unequal. You probably can run Linux on two Xeon processors, so why did they use IBM zSeries?