Comments on: Gauging Microsoft threat to Europe's Linux users

Company could call on patents filed with the European Patent Office to sue U.K. open-source users, but the situation's complicated.

[ppgreat]

Bring it on, Redmond

This "patent" FUD has been in play for a long time to offset open
source adoption.

MS doesn't want to reveal what patents it feels are in violation
because they know that the community will circumvent them very
quickly and negate their arguments for adoption.

[ColdMast]

whould you like one lump of FUD or two?

This Monopoly is about to die with Linux owning hotels on Park Place and Boardwalk.

I don't think M$ will be able to collect $200 from me.

[WJeansonne]

That's the Linux Crowd for you

Forever Utterly Dumb. Ignorance is no excuse for the law, as the saying goes. It's astounding how blatantly arrogant, audacious and out dumb the free open source crowd is towards intellectual property law. But I think they are about to find out, LOL.

[rcrusoe]

I'll believe MS is a real threat to Linux

when they take their case to Germany.

From what I've read, Germany has a "put up or shut up" law. If you claim someone is violating your patents, you have to lay out the proof.

[JCPayne]

YAWN- Come with the proof M$ or shut it up.

That's like driving down the street and a police officer pulls you over. The police keeps saying I have evidence you broke the law back there. But I wont let you go or tell you what you did. Come clean M$ or just admit you have nada.... Even out of the technology that you bought second hand from someone else.

[cybervigilante]

Why doesn't microsoft just make a decent OS?

They need better programmers, not better lawyers. I am sooooo tired of the rotten, buggy Registry. It's always getting corrupted or slowing my system down. It's totally unnecessary but they insist on this piece-of-crap file. And I hate it that I can't easily back up the whole system and reinstall it. Or just port programs back and forth without annoying reinstalls. The unreliability, obtuseness, and disaster-proneness of windows is what makes linux desirable. Why don't they just fix that and they wouldn't have to worry about the competition.

Out of fear that someone might get their lousy OS for free, they've made it so much worse that "free" is the only thing it's worth.

[cybervigilante]

They get Market Share with Market Scare

The real idea is to scare fainthearted business users into shelling out mucho dollars for Microcrap's bloated, buggy software, out of fear of future lawsuits. The lawsuits will never happen. It's all about Market Scare as opposed to Market Share.

[Gayle Edwards]

Im afraid Microsofts "Patent Threat" against Linux is very real...

...but not for any genuine, current, "IP theft" issues.

I truly believe that Microsofts, alleged, "235 patents" (which are supposedly "...infringed by Linux") are not being detailed, and acted-upon, at this time... ONLY because the new "patent reform legislation"...

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9746705-7.html?tag=tb

...hasnt, yet, actually been fully-passed, and enacted.

First, you really need to understand that Microsoft files, literally, thousands of software-patents a year (many of which are highly-questionable). And you also need to realize that Microsoft is the largest supporter of the newest "First to File" based "patent reform" measure (currently making it way through the Federal Legislature). Frankly, if Microsoft tried to enforce its, highly-questionable, vaporous-patents, at this time, I truly believe that most would, undoubtedly, easily be shown to be "invalid" due to the "obvious nature" of many of them, not to mention the bombshell that "Prior Art" would undoubtedly wreak upon Microsofts American patent-portfolio.

However, once these, heavily-lobbied-by-Microsoft, "new" patent-laws actually go into effect... I fear that Microsoft will be in a far, far, stronger position to hold onto such shady-patents, and be further empowered to pursue a relentless litigation-threat campaign against Microsofts top "competitive-threats"... including, "Linux".

And when they [Microsoft] do finally have everything they want, Microsoft WILL use these, much-harder to invalidate, "patents" as a perpetual weapon against any potential-competition.

I honestly believe that is, exactly, why Microsoft files so many "fluff" patents (and is pushing this particular "patent reform") so hard, in the first place. This is also why, I think, that several of the more obvious Microsoft-shills are exhibiting so much confidence about "Microsofts patents" being effectively used against "Open Source". They [the shills] know about (or, at least have an inkling of) Microsofts latest FUD and market-manipulation strategy.

So, I would say the "threat to Linux" is, unfortunately, very real.

[Jim Harmon]

Very real threat

Maybe theoretically, but I doubt anything will actually come of it.

The EC is already keeping a close eye on Microsoft, especially when it comes to taking advantage of its dominant position. I would expect the EC to come down real hard real fast on any bullying that MS might try.

[ayteebee]

So who's going to sue Microsoft?

Effectively calling every *Nix user a thief and not backing up their claims with evidence, there must be a case for libel there somewhere.

[fastdodge]

I like it!

A world wide class action law suite against M& for defamation of
character. Sign me up, I feel my reputation has be defamed by M$
actions.

Ther must be some law firm that wants a lot of money for very little
work.

FastDodge

[Seaspray0]

I'm not sure the patents will hold water

One possible savior for public source code is the "obvious" factor that can invalidate a patent. If two different entities achieve the same results independently, using different code, for different operating systems, could this not qualify as an "obvious" solution to the problem?

Pure speculation on my part, I'm no lawyer, but it seems obvious to me (note: if you came to the same conclusion, I posted it first and you are subject to paying me royalties in perpetuity for my patentable idea). Blaaaahhh!