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Comments on: Microsoft to partners: It's time to change

The software maker says the time has come to offer business software in versions that are both hosted and not hosted.

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"will be obsolete"?
by qwerty75 July 10, 2007 10:34 AM PDT
They already are.
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Micro$oft Agonistes
by a155mm July 10, 2007 11:33 AM PDT
Another attempt by M$ to avoid becoming irrelevant. Our shop has already been approached about the "dire consequences" of not buying into the hosted model. Our customers laughed us out of the room when we presented the idea at our last users group. Probably will pass on this one.
Like they were 10 years ago?
by KTLA_knew July 10, 2007 12:07 PM PDT
Are they just as obsolete as they were back in the mid to late 90s when the OSS crowd claimed that MS was ALREADY dead, but just wouldn't realize it until 2001 or so? (Win98 was the last version that would sell any large numbr of copies, IIRC.)

I'm sure the claim will be the same next decade...

C/ZDnet, always good for a larf...
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They can smell the money!
by Renegade Knight July 10, 2007 11:59 AM PDT
Ha! Thanks to their own efforts that have taken money out of my pocket in exchange for nothing. I will avoid using MS wherever possible becaues if they are going to get off on smelling money, it's not going to be much of mine. Given time I can shift that "not much" to none whatsoever.

If MS focused on the customer instead of the money they would not be digging such a big hole for themselves.
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Re: They can smell the money!
by chuck_whealton July 10, 2007 6:42 PM PDT
Well, they're in business to make money. But I have to say, if this really took off, I'd be a bit shocked.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com
Microsoft has a long history of reinventing itself
by WJeansonne July 10, 2007 5:25 PM PDT
Get over it.
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You are absolutely correct
by rcrusoe July 11, 2007 5:40 AM PDT
Microsoft is constantly "reinventing themselves".

Historically it seems when someone else comes up with a good idea, Microsoft uses their storehouse of money to either buy the innovating company or produce their own, normally inferior version.

And most people still think buying the Microsoft version is a good idea. But that group of people has been shrinking for years.

Cellphones? Wince phones are still a small percentage of the market. Online services? It's Google, then everyone else. Music players? I live in a large city and spotted a Zune for the first time two weeks ago.

But the XBox does/did have good market share. Too bad it's never made Microsoft a dollar. And now MS has announced a potential $1 Billion dollar liability due to problems with the unit.

I think the analysts are right when they say to Microsoft:

"Give up trying to be cool. It's not working."


http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201000608&subSection=All+Stories

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_6345245
Yes but...
by t8 July 11, 2007 5:24 PM PDT
Yes but they also break the law in order to catch up. If they can't break the law this time round, then they might find it a lot harder to compete.

The harder it will be to compete the more reason for them to say #$%^ it, let's break the law again.
As a Microsoft partner..
by bar86 July 10, 2007 11:15 PM PDT
At this time point I do not use a single MS product that was released in the past five years:
Vista - No. Office 2007 - No. Visual Studio .Net - No.

Now, if Microsoft relies on me to push their new products and make money, they have seriuos problem !
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What kind of change?
by Ramicnet July 11, 2007 1:40 AM PDT
I think the change is already coming, not from Microsoft but from users who are moving from traditional offline operating systems and applications to the web (Web mail, Web photo albums, Web documents?etc) where all data and applications are available from anywhere.

Check out G.ho.st (The Global Hosted Operating SysTem) at http://g.ho.st. G.ho.st is working to provide a free fully functional Virtual Computer, on the Web, so that every person in the world can do any computing at any time, any place, on any budget.
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I am a bit confused...
by Ted Miller July 11, 2007 5:16 AM PDT
but help me please to understand. Does all this mean (doing all things on the Web) that we trust all of our Data to some one else to safe keep. What I believe it means to let a company such as Microsoft protect all of our money and data on their own servers? If that is what it all means, then I do find all of this scary. I believe it to be wise for a company to have their own servers and protect their own data. People really should (and won't) learn from the mistakes made through history and stop putting FAITH in other people and their organizations to protect what they have. I really have to admit I do not understand everything about this, but I feel I do believe and understand enough to see that there is something really wrong with all of this. It all seems to be about someone controlling everything. If that is what it is, then NO THANK YOU!
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SplendidCRM offers free hosting license
by splendidcrm July 11, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
We believe that Microsoft will have a hard time attracting partners for its Live CRM when there are so many alternatives that offer much better deals for partners.
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Partners to Microsoft: "You First"
by Penguinisto July 11, 2007 9:43 PM PDT
Seriously - between overly-restrictive EULAs, DRM, incredibly
stupid licensing requirements, and the basic premise that MSFT
thinks it can merely dictate and the developers will somehow
follow.

Let me put it in very clear terms:

"Hey, Steve! it's not 1998 anymore! You're losing mindshare
faster than a drunken sailor loses money on Shore Leave! Vista
is sucking harder than a galaxy-swallowing supermassive black
hole! Nobody wants to shell out a pile of Benjamins on warmed-
over reheated bloatware like Office 2007! Get a frickin' clue
already!"

If MSFT requires any more clarity, I'd have to hit Maya and make
an animation of it.

/P
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Good one
by hounddoglgs July 12, 2007 1:42 PM PDT
"Vista is sucking harder than a galaxy-swallowing supermassive black hole!"

Priceless- I'll have to remember that one.

Cheers
Change to a Mac
by Xenu7-214951314497503184010868 July 11, 2007 11:05 PM PDT
You'll be so much happier, and you'll be ahead of the curve instead of behind it all the time.
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It is time to change to OS/2
by Thought Police OMalley July 12, 2007 7:38 PM PDT
better than a Mac, more stable than Windows, and virus-proof and hacker-proof!
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