Comments on: SAP admits 'inappropriate downloads' from Oracle

Downloads of Oracle files by SAP subsidiary "unacceptable," CEO Kagermann declares. Justice Department also investigating.

[shoffmueller]

soft of funny

that these two huge rivals are in legal battle, and no one
comments. Guess not as easy to discuss as an iPhone, and how
apple/microsoft/att/itunes/zune sucks

[dondarko]

yeah...

we live in a sad pathetic world...

[suyts]

Ok, I'll bite.

Did anyone notice how it took a lawsuit in a U.S. court to get an explanation from SAP? Oracle, a U.S. company, has discussed this for a long while. I thought that the EU had vehicles in place to prevent this sort of behavior. That is what was stated when the EU came about. I'm all for free trade as long as it is fare trade.

[suyts]

Further,

I don't give a damn about iphones or zunes. ATT? That depends on wether they are a different company or not..... can't determine at this point. It could be that a bunch of suits are just switching chairs. What's that game?

[BogusName]

It's not that big of a story

The IP story is a big one, but this is more of a case of theft. They took something they had no right to take.

In the much bigger picture, I don't think the overall intellectual property story is going away anytime soon. If EU companies aren't complying, and the enforcement is difficult, what can any American company expect in either India or China?

So, I have no interest in defending SAP, but I don't think that a recently acquired subsidiary stealing some patches is anything more than a minor blemish.

[standardsguru]

SAP's problems are not limited to Oracle

SAP's understanding about the full extent of their problems seems very elementary. For full details about their problems with the United Nations go to http://www.klauskorner.com/2007/07/03/tmg-responses/.

These are not the same problems but they do seem to indicate that SAP has a much more serious and systemic problem that is not limited to a few "rogue" engineers or support staff.

As you will read from SAP Vice President of Industry Standards, Michael Bechauf, and other comments posted at klauskorner.com, there are significant problems with SAP conflict of interest and possible monpoly that are being ignored.

It is time for bloggers and other media to expose more of this preditory behavior from SAP with the same agreesiveness as they use to go after Microsoft.

[xml_geek]

Open Standards blocked by SAP Patents!

Standardsguru, thanks for the link. I spend the last hour reading
all the related postings as well as visiting the CEFACT (the
standards organization involved) web site. This is truly a
underhanded attack by a vendor to stop the implementation of
an "open-standard" which is also an ISO standard, by filing not
one but at least 10 patents to stifle the implementation by
others, such as the competition, which also includes Oracle.

I agree with your plea that it is time for the technology media to
fully expose this attack on an Open Standard, especially since it
looks like that the CEFACT leadership is doing nothing other
than support SAP in its claim of having done nothing wrong. As
you said if this were Microsoft we would have heard by now
outcries of foul play. Why is the media so silent when it comes to
others?

[suyts]

OOPS,

This is one EU company that got caught. Why did it have to take a lawsuit in the U.S. to get them to admit it? Because the respect for other countries laws, (something that the EU promised when they came to be) is just lip service.

[qwerty75]

What???

More clueless blathering from the always clueless suyts.

What does a company in Europe and their behavior have to do the EU.

[Abu_Talal]

There's a discussion group hosted at the following address on this topic, with Mr Kagermann posting his own comments on the matter

http://www.meettheboss.com/index.asp?buid=FinChannel040920081sn

There's a simple registration process involved, but no costs and it is exclusively for banking and financial services executives, so no headhunters or solution providers involved in the discussions...
Apparently, you can also communicate with other users by online video-conferencing facilities.

It seems like a very interesting group, i look forward to meeting some of you on there.