Comments on: HP chairman: Use of pretexting 'embarrassing'
An investigation's method of scrutinizing board members and journalists was "wrong" and has left the company red-faced.
Full coverage: HP's boardroom drama
Hurd memo: We will take the necessary action
Shame on HP for trampling on the constitution, personal privacy and breaking the law.
They should be investigated by the SEC and someone should go to jail.
PS : Its no surprise that HP is a major contributor to the Republican cause (as per Rush Limbaugh)
http://www.rushlimbaughonline.com/articles/boycottcompanies.htm
It's an abuse of power and information that reads more salacious than a Danielle Steel novel. Former HP board member in a NY Times Interview had even said Dunn's spying was "probable unlawful conduct, improper board practices, breakdowns in corporate governance."
I'm not buying the "we had no idea because we hired a company who outsourced to contractors" excuse. Common sense dictates that this operation was fishy by definition and by instruction.
HP, of all companies, can't have a corporate officer (and chief legal counsel, for that matter) who condone spying on other board memebers and private citizens. It's an afront to the "secure" IT services HP is in the business of selling to others.
She should resign.
-Mister Winky
if she had any ethical values...she should offer her resignation...
shocked about the methods employed. This whole thing smells of
one big Cat Fight where personalities versus common sense
prevailed. I can't wait to see how Hurd handles this ... Hopefully,
it's an opportunity for management to reclaim control from the
board over the company. This board has run amuck.
I feel bad for the employees of HP and their new super-star CEO, Mark Hurd, who have been working so hard to rekindle the success of HP.
This board has always been volatile with arguments with the Hewlett family members over the Compaq acquisition to the most current debacle. I think it just may need a clean sweep..so shareholders call for a vote!
Removal or resignation are the appropriate action for Dunn.
Might be time to cut bad ties with Dunn.
HP MUST sack her immediately and eat massive crow by issuing a press release with an effusive apology for "Profoundly Unacceptable Behavior by Former Chairwoman who has been Terminated" -- then state emphatically that it will cooperate fully with any any and all civil or criminal investigations.
I for one will touch no HP product unless and until I see some satisfaction.
The simple and clean solution is to remove her in disgrace and cooperate with any possible criminal investigations.
Sipping champagne on his 270 ft yatch as Dunn is baked in the
slow rotisserie of American investigative journalism. The sweet
taste of revenge.
Carly Fiorina was bad enough, and this is worse. I have 3 HP products in my house which are becoming hard to look at. Maybe I'll tape a Xerox label over them just for fun.
Shame on HP for trampling on the constitution, personal privacy and breaking the law.
They should be investigated by the SEC and someone should go to jail.
PS : Its no surprise that HP is a major contributor to the Republican cause (as per Rush Limbaugh)
http://www.rushlimbaughonline.com/articles/boycottcompanies.htm
It's a non-sequiter to accuse a private non-government entity of trampling on the constitution. If you read the thing you'll note that it says what says what government can and can't do, and never says a word about what private entitities can't do. Common mistake. Only the government can "trample on the constitution" -- people and companies are limited by laws, not by the constitution.
And since the 8th amendment appplies to the government and not to me, if anyone from HP tries to get sensitive information on me, I'll hunt them down and exercise cruel and unusual punishment on 'em.
down the toilet.
Look out Epson, I am going to be buying some printers....
Still, she has yet to explain the why, as to the filing the statement to the SEC omitting the basic facts as to Tom Perkins resignation in May, and restricting CEO's general statement to both the staff at HP and the press.
Further, has yet to explain when given ample opportunity, to correct the basic errors as well including the boardroom minutes to that fateful meeting !
Remember , that she of her own freewill and volition , chose to operate in that arbitrary manner as well!
Let the roasting continue unabated, as she deserves it , though she leaves so many unanswered questions?, at this point in time, as well!
Her options, now appear to be shrinking by the hour, as the scandal continues along it's merry way!
Oh well, time will tell all shortly!
The point is, what Ms Dunn has done is wrong, but also wrong is the 'leaker' and also that reporter who accepted the leak .... if this entire situation is to be treated with true ethics. Ofcourse it is debatable that, what is true ethics.
The most famous type of this would be "Watergate" and its leak "Deep Throat." Or the current "BALCO" grand jury investigation. There are countless reasons why an informant wants their name kept out of it; privacy and fear of retaliation for example.
surveilance methods that can't be used??
- Give me a break
- by brian.lee September 9, 2006 8:03 PM PDT
- This kind of thing happens all the time and it will keep
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- Partially right
- by VI Joker September 11, 2006 7:23 AM PDT
- There is nothing illegal about a "HR manager listening to employees gossip at the water cooler. Or your manager pretending to be your best buddy (getting you drunk at the bar) than selling you out down the road." Its unethical in general (depending on who you are it might not be personally), but not illegal. Obtaining someone's phone records without a court order is illegeal and unethical. What George Keyworth did was unethical, but not illegal. Should HP fire him? Maybe. It depends on what his worth is to the company seeing that he will not longer be on the board. Its true executives are paid lots of money to run a company, and should be able to keep strategies to themselves. However, they also should be able to obey the law as well.
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (40 Comments)happening regardless. The only difference is someone got
caught, it's no different than your HR manager listening to
employees gossip at the water cooler. Or your manager
pretending to be your best buddy (getting you drunk at the bar)
than selling you out down the road. I'm surprised that no one
noticed that the guy who leaked the information wasn't some
middle manager but someone at the top which goes to show you
that attempts to "buy" loyality just doesn't work anymore, I'm
mean it's not bad enough you pay these guys big bucks to run
the place heaven forbid you expect them to keep their mouths
shut and not ruin the game plan. Maybe they should add
punishable by death to the termination clause perhaps that'll
shut people up.