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U.S. Census Bureau contract calls for a half million handsets loaded with Windows Mobile.

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Great!...
by SystemsJunky April 5, 2006 11:12 AM PDT
Eh-hum...Just dont let the batteries die...
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Thats more a hardware issue!!!
by Tanjore April 5, 2006 11:17 AM PDT
Batteries are more a hardware issue!!!

OS does play a role with resources. It is possible to customize windows mobile pc to not load most of the battery draining modules.
Check this blog out (link).
by Tanjore April 5, 2006 11:28 AM PDT
Check this blog how mobile pc take care of battery issue.

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/07/14/438991.aspx
Great!...
by SystemsJunky April 5, 2006 11:12 AM PDT
Eh-hum...Just dont let the batteries die...
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Thats more a hardware issue!!!
by Tanjore April 5, 2006 11:17 AM PDT
Batteries are more a hardware issue!!!

OS does play a role with resources. It is possible to customize windows mobile pc to not load most of the battery draining modules.
Check this blog out (link).
by Tanjore April 5, 2006 11:28 AM PDT
Check this blog how mobile pc take care of battery issue.

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/07/14/438991.aspx
Dumb move.
by hal Summers April 5, 2006 11:12 AM PDT
Why sign a contract now for census work in 2010? At the pace that
tech moves whatever they get out of this will be outdated before
it's even put to use.
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Outdated
by KsprayDad April 5, 2006 11:18 AM PDT
These are going to be strictly for data entry...no phone/email/internet...

Thus...they will likely still be very usable for the function they are going to perform.
No its now
by April 5, 2006 11:35 AM PDT
"Why sign a contract now for census work in 2010? At the pace that tech moves whatever they get out of this will be outdated before it's even put to use."

You dont know much about the Census, do you?

For one, they start years before the full census gets underway. They need to 'pre-canvas' and go and double check addresses, maps, etc - all of which was done with paper in the past.

Two, it is a MASSIVE undertaking. MASSIVE. Its not like setting up an online poll for your blog or something. It involves hundreds of thousands of people, massive logistics, thousands of temporary offices, and lots and lots of training of people in different jobs. Its not something you prepare last minute for.

Also, the system they'll be using for data capture needs to be written and tested. Again, this isnt like uploading your daily thoughts to MySpace. The data capture apps are going to take a while to produce, so the developers need to know under what platform they'll be running. 2009 is NOT that far away, so a 3 year old OS is not that out of date.

And then, of course, it'll take time to make all those units in the first place.

So basically, grow up. I know it makes people feel better about themselves to immediate call other people dumb. Its a very non-flattering trait you see a lot of online. But its also very childish. I've worked the Census people in the past, and if there's one organization in the government other than the military that knows how to handle a massive operation, its them.
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Dumb move.
by hal Summers April 5, 2006 11:12 AM PDT
Why sign a contract now for census work in 2010? At the pace that
tech moves whatever they get out of this will be outdated before
it's even put to use.
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Outdated
by KsprayDad April 5, 2006 11:18 AM PDT
These are going to be strictly for data entry...no phone/email/internet...

Thus...they will likely still be very usable for the function they are going to perform.
No its now
by April 5, 2006 11:35 AM PDT
"Why sign a contract now for census work in 2010? At the pace that tech moves whatever they get out of this will be outdated before it's even put to use."

You dont know much about the Census, do you?

For one, they start years before the full census gets underway. They need to 'pre-canvas' and go and double check addresses, maps, etc - all of which was done with paper in the past.

Two, it is a MASSIVE undertaking. MASSIVE. Its not like setting up an online poll for your blog or something. It involves hundreds of thousands of people, massive logistics, thousands of temporary offices, and lots and lots of training of people in different jobs. Its not something you prepare last minute for.

Also, the system they'll be using for data capture needs to be written and tested. Again, this isnt like uploading your daily thoughts to MySpace. The data capture apps are going to take a while to produce, so the developers need to know under what platform they'll be running. 2009 is NOT that far away, so a 3 year old OS is not that out of date.

And then, of course, it'll take time to make all those units in the first place.

So basically, grow up. I know it makes people feel better about themselves to immediate call other people dumb. Its a very non-flattering trait you see a lot of online. But its also very childish. I've worked the Census people in the past, and if there's one organization in the government other than the military that knows how to handle a massive operation, its them.
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Yeah Yeah Yeah
by ServedUp April 5, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
Again... Where's Vista?
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Vista?
by KTLA_knew April 5, 2006 12:09 PM PDT
They're not using Vista, they're using WinCE. Read the article.
huh?
by frankwick April 5, 2006 12:12 PM PDT
How is that relevant? I'm sure when windows mobile v6 ships in 2-3 years, it will be Vista-like.
You're not a Beatle, stop singing their songs
by aabcdefghij987654321 April 5, 2006 12:25 PM PDT
You're off-key and off-base. If MS only produced one product your pathetic little complaint posted to all these various stories would carry some weight but since MS produces hundreds of products you only look the fool for suggesting that they shouldn't work on anything except the one product you want to complain about. In fact you look even worse with your complaint to a story like this where the MS product being mentioned is an already available product and not something else being worked on or just released.
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Yeah Yeah Yeah
by ServedUp April 5, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
Again... Where's Vista?
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Vista?
by KTLA_knew April 5, 2006 12:09 PM PDT
They're not using Vista, they're using WinCE. Read the article.
huh?
by frankwick April 5, 2006 12:12 PM PDT
How is that relevant? I'm sure when windows mobile v6 ships in 2-3 years, it will be Vista-like.
You're not a Beatle, stop singing their songs
by aabcdefghij987654321 April 5, 2006 12:25 PM PDT
You're off-key and off-base. If MS only produced one product your pathetic little complaint posted to all these various stories would carry some weight but since MS produces hundreds of products you only look the fool for suggesting that they shouldn't work on anything except the one product you want to complain about. In fact you look even worse with your complaint to a story like this where the MS product being mentioned is an already available product and not something else being worked on or just released.
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Clarifications
by KsprayDad April 5, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
This story makes it seem like these devices will be phone/email capable.

They will NOT be either.

Monty Wood from the Census Bureau already confirmed (yesterday) that these devices will not be able to be used for email/internet or phone. The Census bureau will continue to use Blackberry for that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060404/ap_on_hi_te/census_mobile_devices
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Not true
by KTLA_knew April 5, 2006 12:11 PM PDT
just because they will use BB for phone and internet does not make the WinCE devices incapable of performing phone/internet functionality.

They *WILL* perform that functionality. That's how they will stay connected to the census network to upload data.
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Clarifications
by KsprayDad April 5, 2006 11:16 AM PDT
This story makes it seem like these devices will be phone/email capable.

They will NOT be either.

Monty Wood from the Census Bureau already confirmed (yesterday) that these devices will not be able to be used for email/internet or phone. The Census bureau will continue to use Blackberry for that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060404/ap_on_hi_te/census_mobile_devices
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Not true
by KTLA_knew April 5, 2006 12:11 PM PDT
just because they will use BB for phone and internet does not make the WinCE devices incapable of performing phone/internet functionality.

They *WILL* perform that functionality. That's how they will stay connected to the census network to upload data.
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