Comments on: Oracle to swallow Siebel for $5.8 billion

The database giant makes its fourth acquisition this year, buying up CRM specialist Siebel.

Any competition left?

Seems to be a monopoly formed by this move. Will this make it
past the SEC? I must be forgetting someone else who is a
significant player in Oracle's realm?

SAP

...are still a pretty big competitor. Although with Oracle taking PeopleSoft and now Siebel, it makes a pretty mean deal for anyone else in this sector.

[bobby_brady]

No more competition, get ready for price increase

Since our federal government is corrupt, I expect this buyout to go through.

[TV James]

Bad photo

Ok, that photo of Ellison makes him look like a villain from a 1980's made-for-TV movie.

[heystoopid]

Now let me see?

As most takeovers, are usually based on share exchange, x number for y shares plus cash difference payable only on a specific contingency acceptance /time factor! Now this of course means a shareholder dilution, on the takeover company to the effective tune of the value of new shares issued to fund corporate purchase. The cash differences are usually funded from decapitalization/unwanted asset sale of the party being absorbed(this in turn actually effects the real asset backing of the joint companies the shares). Now to compensate the CEO's usually grant themselves additional bonus performance shares, to those already paid and/or accumulated, through board member subservience and/or obsequience. However, existing shareholders get dudded as they don't get the bonus shares to compensate for shareholder distribution dilution, unless the next years dividend is supplanted by additional asset sale of the takeover target, to artificially boost the final dividend(from extraordinaries) and the new CEO, laughs all the way to bank, from his extra franked dividend share payments whilst maintaining his control dominance of the board of directors. Hey, ain't the wall street way, a good way to double or triple one's fortune(of course you can cheat and use the ENRON way of forcing the companies pension fund to buy your shares and or maintain share price whilst still maintaining the voter control/ whilst strongarming your rent an accountant company(although the recent KPMG USD$457 million fine for other misdemeanors(keep partners out of jail for felonies committed), may have terminated accountant obsequience, and you may find that the accountants appendage on the annual SEC return, to be very pointed and succinct and very comprehensive/extensive)). Oh well, looks like the ordinary shareholder, and the companies customers, will be paying for this privelige for some time to come! Is it a good deal, only time will tell for whom, my first question, is what's the financial advantage to the CEO!, and what is the shareholder asset dilution/dividend shrink factor? and finally, what is the joint staff shrink factor?(it has major effect on the customer satisfaction/retention base).

[chandresh.hingu]

Continue or not

my question is , will oracle continue each and every product of siebel like CRM on demand, siebel sales,siebel order management etc.

or they r going to close some product.