Comments on: EU antitrust officials raid Intel

update Dell is among those questioned Tuesday as part of an ongoing investigation into the chipmaker. AMD applauds the inquiry.

[Llib Setag]

Holy Crap Batman! To the Wintel Cave!

Next stop MICROSITH Europe HQ's! (Euro-Death Star)

If I were Citizen Gates I would take this as a "shot across the bow" when dealing with the EU & their ongoing EU antitrust case...

Hello USDOJ? Is there anybody home?

[Andrew J Glina]

You need help

What is the relevance with Microsoft? The only OS manufacturer doing deals with Intel at the moment is Apple.

Did Bill kick sand in your face or something?

[Llib Setag]

Holy Crap Batman! To the Wintel Cave!

Next stop MICROSITH Europe HQ's! (Euro-Death Star)

If I were Citizen Gates I would take this as a "shot across the bow" when dealing with the EU & their ongoing EU antitrust case...

Hello USDOJ? Is there anybody home?

[Andrew J Glina]

You need help

What is the relevance with Microsoft? The only OS manufacturer doing deals with Intel at the moment is Apple.

Did Bill kick sand in your face or something?

[domino360]

Who is the bully here? AMD or Intel?

All I hear is AMD attacking... Hmm... Desperation...

In marketing we say that any publicity is good publicity. In AMDs case is a divas cry for help. Since I use a combination of systems in my business, I'm not impressed with AMDs image at all. Layers win money, AMD will settle for less, and in the end layers still win. Isn't that what happened with Apple when Microsoft saved it by purchasing 100 mill in stock? The new guy that AMD has (Hector de Ruiz) will ruin the company for good. He reminds me of Karl Rove (rutheless pathological marketing BS nut).

I guess that if you practice 100% Marketing BS, in the end it means monopoly. The funny thing about this is that no corporation will admit on camera that they want full market share. But behind doors they always say "We envision for everyone to use our products". So AMD, STOP complaining like a little kid about the slice of cake you have, and concentrate in making better products. This year you are ahead because Intel relaxed its RD. If you continue with inovative producs you'll gain loyalty and market share. Shallow behavior from your part (AMD) would mean that I and many people will dump your stock for Big Macs.

So, who is the bully here? AMD or Intel? Just guess... it only has 3 letters.

I disaggree

AMD did innovate and does have superior products (ever tried the Athlon-FX series?) but that is not enough. Money talks. And monopolies have money. Money can preserve a monopoly (Microsoft comes to mind) even if the products are inferior. AMD has tried everithing they could. Having better products and prices is not enough once the competition bought up the marketplace. AMD is right in sueing intel since he's running out of options.

BTW about product superiority check out some benchmarks from www.tomshardware.com and do a price comparison.

How would you feel in the shoes of AMD? Court is the only option since what Intel is doing is illegal and hinders competition. Competition which would drop the prices for us, end users.

[domino360]

Who is the bully here? AMD or Intel?

All I hear is AMD attacking... Hmm... Desperation...

In marketing we say that any publicity is good publicity. In AMDs case is a divas cry for help. Since I use a combination of systems in my business, I'm not impressed with AMDs image at all. Layers win money, AMD will settle for less, and in the end layers still win. Isn't that what happened with Apple when Microsoft saved it by purchasing 100 mill in stock? The new guy that AMD has (Hector de Ruiz) will ruin the company for good. He reminds me of Karl Rove (rutheless pathological marketing BS nut).

I guess that if you practice 100% Marketing BS, in the end it means monopoly. The funny thing about this is that no corporation will admit on camera that they want full market share. But behind doors they always say "We envision for everyone to use our products". So AMD, STOP complaining like a little kid about the slice of cake you have, and concentrate in making better products. This year you are ahead because Intel relaxed its RD. If you continue with inovative producs you'll gain loyalty and market share. Shallow behavior from your part (AMD) would mean that I and many people will dump your stock for Big Macs.

So, who is the bully here? AMD or Intel? Just guess... it only has 3 letters.

I disaggree

AMD did innovate and does have superior products (ever tried the Athlon-FX series?) but that is not enough. Money talks. And monopolies have money. Money can preserve a monopoly (Microsoft comes to mind) even if the products are inferior. AMD has tried everithing they could. Having better products and prices is not enough once the competition bought up the marketplace. AMD is right in sueing intel since he's running out of options.

BTW about product superiority check out some benchmarks from www.tomshardware.com and do a price comparison.

How would you feel in the shoes of AMD? Court is the only option since what Intel is doing is illegal and hinders competition. Competition which would drop the prices for us, end users.

[fred dunn]

Intel Has Commoditized the Market...

And if you don't agree that Intel has a monopoly then that is your right. It is also your right to pay double the current prices for PCs if AMD pulls out of the x86 market since the only time Intel lowers prices is when AMD comes out with a competing product. If AMD loses this lawsuit we all lose.
When you buy an Intel system from any of the Tier 1 OEMs you are are essentially buying a computer that Intel designed. Other than case styles and periphery all Wintel boxes are the same. Intel owns the souls of the major OEMs and can and do adversely affect their operations if they "don't play ball".
At least in the OS arena you have some competition but that simply isn't the case in the CPU wars.

Fred Dunn

[fred dunn]

Intel Has Commoditized the Market...

And if you don't agree that Intel has a monopoly then that is your right. It is also your right to pay double the current prices for PCs if AMD pulls out of the x86 market since the only time Intel lowers prices is when AMD comes out with a competing product. If AMD loses this lawsuit we all lose.
When you buy an Intel system from any of the Tier 1 OEMs you are are essentially buying a computer that Intel designed. Other than case styles and periphery all Wintel boxes are the same. Intel owns the souls of the major OEMs and can and do adversely affect their operations if they "don't play ball".
At least in the OS arena you have some competition but that simply isn't the case in the CPU wars.

Fred Dunn