Comments on: Report blasts Mass. OpenDocument policy

An oversight committee criticizes standard-setting process as closed, unlawful and insensitive to people with disabilities.

[qprize]

Sour Grapes?

I'm speculating that this guy is just pissed off because he expected
MS would win. He enthusiastically endorsed the process last year
(http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/showArticle.jhtml?
articleID=57702867).

[JulesLt]

Accesibility

Seeing as you can open an OpenDocument document on a
Windows system I would hope those built-in screen-readers,
text-to-speech and enlargement options would work just as
well.

The good senator also seems to have forgotten the needs of
disabled users of systems that do not support Microsoft Office.

Well, if we're going to start speaking on behalf of people that
haven't raised any complaint themselves, I might as well invent a
special interest group.

(For what it's worth, I don't believe these guys are in the pay of
Microsoft or some such conspiracy - they just hate the fact that
some techie has suggested change for reasons they can't
understand - 'If it's not broken, don't try and fix it'. As with IE,
the majority cannot see anything IS broken).

[camper9]

Run the good Senator through google

Search on his name, and the words Microsoft donations

You'll see that he gets money from Microsoft lobbyists.

[rjdohnert]

Moronic statement

That was kind of a moronic statement to make. Take the tin-foil hat off for a second and realize that some people do actually think for themeselves. If Quinn and Kriss did violate the procedure for getting this standard adopted, what do you propose they do? Let it slide?

[kamwmail-cnet1]

By "people with disability", you mean Microsoft?

another mASSachusetts politican at it again.

[camper9]

another mASSachusetts politican at it again

Do you really mean, "Microsoft lobbyist money at it again?"

Or maybe, "Another Microsft-purchased politician at it again"?

[kamwmail-cnet1]

By "people with disability", you mean Microsoft?

Mass. politicians at it again.

[Maccess]

formats don't determine accesibility, it's the programs.

Perhaps the good Senator should be encouraging programmers to create more disabled friendly programs using the Open Document format. After all, since the format is open, anyone can make a program for it, even Microsoft.

[jabbotts]

text to speach is a function of the OS anyhow

text to speach is generally a function of the OS anyhow. Sure, PDF Reader 7 and Office2007 have it built in but you generally it's an app that services all other programs as needed. It's nothing to do with the file format or shortlist of early adopters.

If process was cercomvented then that issue needs to be adressed but another polition who's toe got stepped on cause he didn't win his argument; bite me.

[rpms]

Formats do determine accessibility

The main villain is PDF, a format which does not store text as continuous strings but rather, as small fragments (individual letters in some cases!), each tagged with its position on the page.

A continuous string of text can be read in natural order by screen reading software.

Though text fragments with position tags *appear* to humans to be in order when represented visually, it is quite difficult to recreate the ordered, *machine-readable* representation. Acrobat's search feature won't find words that are split across lines, for example. From Acrobat's (and the underlying format's) perspective, the end of one line is in no way related to the beginning of the next.

OpenDocument and the Microsoft Office formats are not subject to this particular accessibility problem, but they have accessibility problems of their own.

Interestingly, HTML prepared in accordance with the WCAG guidelines is one of the most accessible formats. See, in particular, the way the HTML standard and the WCAG guidelines address the linking of table cells to row and column headers.

So yes, format does affect accessibility.

[FutureGuy]

READ,,

it says "Microsoft Office has built-in help for people with disabilities, such as voice synthesizers, special screen readers and enlargers, Winske said. But he said OpenDocument-based products do not yet. "
i.e. the product that do support opendocument don't support these features. MS has no incentive to support a format which was created by its competitors and distributed free with a primary goal to kill the office market since they can?t really compete head on.

[herkamur]

This just in...

The public blasts the senate for being closed, unlawful and insensitive to people.

[rpms]

Read the auditor's report yourself...

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/st02/st02612.htm

It is thorough and correct.