Comments on: Safari ushers in better browser colors

Apple's Safari could bring richer colors to Windows browsers, but Firefox soon will help expand the gamut, too.

[deecee]

Are you kidding??

sRGB is designed to accommodate the limited gamut of a display, Adobe RGB is recognizing the printing system has a wider gamut than the RGB display and is developed to represent a better printed color space. What's the point of expanding the color space to Adobe while the display system is currently incapable of handling more than sRGB and only simulate the looks of a Adobe printed results on screen. That is just pure hype and marketing non-sense!!

[dansterpower]

You don't understand color and gamut

You have a total lack of knowledge as to how color works: Your
statement: "limited gamut of a display" is completely in error.

So is your statement: "Adobe RGB is recognizing the printing
system has a wider gamut than the RGB display and is developed
to represent a better printed color space."

This is both not true -- RGB is not a printing space -- it is a
display space. CMYK is a printing space.

RGB is a monitor display profile and the gamut is different than
sRGB.

The Color Gamut of a display exceed, by a considerable margin,
the gamut of a display.

Look it up.

You are dead wrong.

[kojacked]

Colorblind!

I think this is an insult to all of the millions of color blind people in the world! How dare Steve be so selfish as to add such a feature for those color seeing elitists! If he really cared about how people see color he'd donate some of his millions to fund research on a cure for color blindness!!!

[Lite Rocker]

Welcome to 1999

Using Safari for WinXp is like using Netscape 4.x, it works but it is a little clunky.

The rendering and mapping of some of the home buttons are kind of a head scratcher.

I do applaud appple for finally releasing this cross platform, as so many other apps have done for years with the Mac OS.

[Vegaman_Dan]

My apology to Dansterpower

Dante,

I apologize for questioning the source of your information or if I sounded like I was attacking you personally. I'd like to put this all aside and treat you with respect.

What do you say?

[dansterpower]

Sure Dan, I apologive too.

Dan,

Sure I agree and want to respect you as well.

I never intended any malice. Color management is just one of
my areas, Mac, PC, Online, or Print. Big part of what I do.

Was just trying to discuss color management usefulness in the
browser and its applications.

Never intended to disrespect you.

You submit many intelligent posts free from trolling and I
respect and appreciate that.

I apologize to you if I came across as disrespectful.

I am sorry.

Dante

[Ilgaz]

Firefox supports it eh? 6 years that is

I remember Apple in bad times itself trying to help Mozilla team
(the original) and even setting up special pages for colorsync
support at mozilla.org

For some reason , nerds took over that project decided colorsync
is sort of fantasy and luxury and left that way. BTW, if you still
see GIF around,that is because same kind of nerds decided
animated images are uncool so advertisers simply stayed on GIF
instead of MNG.

It took 6 years , 3 browser incarnations to re-support colorsync
which was there, for free! 60 votes...

Now, lets wait 6 more years to get browser roaming back, yes..
Netscape 4 feature still not supported because some nerds think
it is not cool.

[HeyFriends]

Thank You, c|net

Your article was a great introduction to the importance of color
management and the science of predictable color coming to the
Web. I appreciate the great links for the browser tests and the
information found there. Thanks for bringing this capability of
Safari to light.

There are many of us who make our living by trying to fit one
colorspace into another colorspace with a minimum of
degradation. For us this is not theory but the tools we use
everyday to keep customers happy and pay the bills. Safari's
ability to read ICC profiles is not a bell or a whistle, but another
tool we can use from our toolbox of apps that are ICC profile
aware. I appreciate Dansterpower's input and his great example
of how Safari's ability to read tagged images is both practical
and valuable in a real-world situation making life better for both
his Mac- and Windows-based clients.

It may sound simple that Safari can read the profile in a image,
read the the profile of a monitor and know how best to display it
on that monitor, but it is the result of many years of sometimes
convoluted software attempts, by many manufacturers, to
manage color on a wide variety of devices. Adobe's first attempt
to include color management in Photoshop was less than
straightforward. But, they figured it out, and we figured it out,
and now we just use it and it works.

Safari's color-management ability is just a ripple on an ocean of
color-managed applications. What make it different is that it is a
browser that can make our Web experience both richer and more
productive.

This is a great statement and I think sums it all up:
"Apple's Safari may not be rewriting the rules for Web browsing
on Windows just yet, but it's leading the way with one significant
change: photographs with better color."

Thank you Stephen Shankland and c|net for bringing this to
light.

(No I don't work for Apple, I just use their tools.)

[HeyFriends]

Oh Yeah...

Posted using Safari 3 beta (Mac)

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For photographs with better color,

use a camera that encodes its information in RAW format, rather than compressed. As for 'tagged' images, that just sounds like another potential secutiry hole: remember the malformed JPG buffer overflow virus? Also this latest browser attack is much ado over nothing... I just saved and opened up the quad-split picture by itself in Internet Explorer and it looks uniform, which leads me to believe that the c-net image tag has incorrect HTML.

[kdrobb2k]

Not bad but not ready.

A nice browser but three problems surfaced right out of the gate There is a huge memory payload of almost 70K during routine surfing. Task nDNSResponder shows up in task manager with 3384K. qttask rears is ugly head in the task tray with each reboot sucking up even more KB. On top of this Safari hangs up frequently even on the apple.com website. Safari has been uninstalled on my system. I want to like this browser but I just can't. Firefox will remain my primary browser for now with IE as the backup.

[z4dude]

Firefox 3 Sucks!

I just got the firefox 3 beta for windows and it was really bad.I know the add on's couldn't work with it yet,but I was still annoyed.Also there is no more search bar but instead you have to type the thing you are searching for in the address bar which can be very annoying.My advice: stick with firefox 2 or safari (safari for me doesn't crash:P)