Comments on: Clock is ticking on Apple's Boot Camp beta

Windows partitions won't disappear once the final version is released, but test users may encounter some headaches.

[MacReseller]

Apple does not listen.

I have no idea where Mr. Bhavnani got the idea Apple listens to customers. Apple does not listen, in fact Apple shuts down discussions etc when they point out a problem.

[E B]

Money talks, Apple listens

Of course Apple listens -- to anything that will give them a new revenue stream.

[mhersh]

More crap from CNET...

This is old news. If anyone had actually bothered to read the
license agreement, it clearly states that BootCamp is beta software
and only available for a limited time.

I fail to see where this matters, as I'm certain most Tiger users will
want to upgrade to Leopard fairly quickly, especially the users who
have Intel Macs. I think there's a lot more anticipation for Leopard
than there was for Vista.

[Riquez-001]

Integrated into Leopard

It makes sense that Bootcamp Final would be integrated into
Leopard - if you're a beta user then there is your incentive to
upgrade.
Not only that, Apple probably dont want to be supporting/
developing a stand alone bootcamp & an integrated version.
Most likely there will be some nifty features in the Leopard
version that just wouldnt be possible with Tiger - such as
parallel booting on dual processors, user switching : Vista <->
OS X etc etc
I think most people who have been using bootcamp in the past
will be excited about the final integrated version & will be
itching to update to Leopard.

[Penguinisto]

*shrug* parallels, rEFIt...

The latter in the title even works the same way as Boot Camp does, which means that installing it would by a cinch.

Besides - who would be crazy enough to use beta software on a [i]boot loader[/i]? Don't get me wrong - on a spare box, sure, and for apps that aren't going to affect the OS, cool. But the MBR (okay, EFI)? nuh-uh.

/P

[tanis143]

Makes me laugh

Boot camp makes me laugh. All these years mac users have touted that the mac OS is so much better than windows, yet Mac's are now nothing but higher priced pc's that can run multiple o/s's, something windows based pc's could do for a long time.

Yes, yes, I know... people LOVE the mac o/s, but still need windows for some aps. Now instead of two pc's they can load windows on to their fabulous mac and have it run both.

What would impress me the most is if Mac could somehow get the game publishers to port their games over to the mac o/s platform. Then I might be tempted (especially for my son, who's pc I have to clean about one a month hehe). Better yet, why doesn't apple just give up on the hardware side and produce the mac o/s to run on any pc. That would be something to talk about. Then I could build me a comparable pc to a mac for about 2 grand cheaper and put OS/X on it.

[close5828]

They'll charge for it...

...and people will pay for it. Why? Because Jobs will tell them to.

[ferretboy88]

Apple over charges for everything

Apple charges for downloads for wireless drivers. They will be jerks and charge for bootcamp.

[ServedUp]

Then just buy a PC.

If your not willing to pay for services rendered while people put
in long hours creating the very software you deem valuable, then
buy a PC. It runs Windows exactly the same as any Intel Mac and
their dirt cheap. And your problem will be solved.

I for one, had no doubt Apple was going to charge for this useful
software that gives my Mac more functionality and will pay for it
(within reason of course). Personally, I believe the software is
worth more than Apple is said to be charging for it which is $50.

[CitizenX]

Actually that is a lie

They charged a nominal amount for the added value of a higher networking capability, not to download drivers.

[SaeedZam]

It's a BETA Software

What a waste of time to read a no news article like this!

Obviously CNET reporter does not know what BETA software means.

Just like betas of all versions of Windows (and countless other software). They are not licensed or supported to operate forever. You have to upgrade from a development version to a full functional version at one point or another.

'enuff said!

[jojo311]

I found the article a little useful

If you look at Apple's webpage for Boot Camp, it doesn't mention anything about support or, more importantly, any functionality being disabled after a given date. To find out that the software may be disabled or not supported at some point, you have to dig deeper. I just slipstreamed my original XP disc and SP2 with the intent of trying out Boot Camp soon, but I think I'll wait until Leopard now that I'm aware of this policy.
I think most reasonable people are okay without getting support on a beta product after the beta period is over; that makes sense. If its true that the Boot Camp Assistant won't work after a given date, then I think a reasonable person may have issues with the policy. Say if I install Boot Camp now but find that I'd like to uninstall XP after all. If Boot Camp Assistant isn't working when I decide to uninstall XP, then as a user I'd be frustrated with the policy. Sure, there are other ways to uninstall, but if those other ways are much more difficult or time consuming, then my frustration level would just increase knowing that the Boot Camp Assistant could do all of that for me.

[MahRain]

Apple isn't Microsoft

In this article, it seems Apple is the "evil empire" who can lure customers with Boot Camp and then start charging for it. However, Apple has already confirmed (in this article) that the Boot Camp partition will continue to function after the Beta period, and I believe they will offer customers some options afterwards. I'm sure it will not cost even half as much as a Leopard upgrade.

[explorer5]

"Apple Listens To Customers?" HA!

Apple is the most introverted, selfish, egotistical company in America (I never even thought I'd use those words on a Company, not a person). If they listened to Customers, they would have created Boot Camp YEARS ago, would have made prices CHEAPER, made the software EASIER to use, and I can go on and on with a whole litany of issues. Apple is a disgrace.

[liam04uk]

years ago?

They couldn't make it YEARS ago because macs used to run on
PPC Chips, which windows did not support. So making bootcamp
would have been a waste of time, if windows run on PPC i have
no doubt that Apple would have made the software all them
years ago.

Nearly all apple software is a simple drag and drop where you
want it app, how simple is that? And my Mac Pro is a higher spec
then my dads dell, and he paid £700 more for his then me.
Apples prices are now very competitive and everyone knows it.
Nearly every review around the web finds apple coming out
cheaper then most EXACTLY same spec'd machines, so pay less
and run more...

[i,Jimbot]

What?!?!

Explorer5, you just keep telling yourself that their prices should be
cheaper and their software should be easier to use. Then go buy a
Dell for the same price and find that a whole lot is missing. Or
build your own and find that it just isn't up to snuff. Oh and keep
using Windows for "ease of use". Yeah, that's the answer. Your
comment shows that you've not used a Mac recently, doesn't it?
Apple is a damn good company that puts out quality hardware and
software, and you'll get what you pay for if you buy their products.
Don't like it? Don't buy?

[DraconumPB]

Amen.

Sums it all right there.

Steve Jobs is... ugh. People complain about Bill Gates, but at least everybody KNOWS what he's all about. Nobody seems to suspect Jobs of any 'business-like-conduct' (i.e. taking your money) but he does it just the same...