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Comments on: It's Adobe's game to lose, CEO says

Bruce Chizen discusses open source, the importance of video and increasing competition from the likes of Google.

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Good for you Adobe!
by LarryLo March 6, 2007 6:00 AM PST
I am an Adobe fan and have been for years.

Reading this interview I see they have some smart forward thinking people there.

I love the MS Quote (They don't use their own technologies in their website...hahahaha).

Adobe seems to be an example of a company doing the right things to make money without extorting their users.
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...bad for designers
by Below Meigh March 6, 2007 6:53 AM PST
Adobe no longer patches problems as often. Instead, Adobe has moved to an "Upgrade" mission. That is a feature set you need? No problem, we'll not bother fixing it, but instead put it in our nth Suite release!
They monopolized the illustration and web-design market by taking over Macromedia. They act high-than-thou with Apple users (e.g. Every app under OS X uses Apple-H to hide menus...all but Adobe).
Adobe got into bed with MS to force users to throw out thousands of dollars worth of type families and embrace their new (order) of Opentype. All because they would not meet Apple on licensing PostScript/Display Postscript. So Apple made it's own dfont and it's been a PITA for designers.
Adobe is an example a company that is getting too big for its britches.
Adobe likely caused Apple to lose millions in sales by delaying the release of a universal binary for the intel-macs. How long has it been? 2 years? And now, this month (but will ship in April) they are releasing CS3?
Oh, and their authorization scheme is another sign of control. The next one is the "terminal-server" approach to licensing an online, "Live Photoshop" where the consumer pays to connect and via browser, use photoshop. And laugh at those that paid the full amount...
I welcome Gnome. And LineFormX. And pdf programs. And I hope Adobe pays a price for ISO approval with pdf.
A Year Late - People look to smaller companies because you move too slow
by jeph4e March 6, 2007 6:56 AM PST
Having to wait a year for a Mactel solution is just stupid on
Adobe's part.

Most folks who invested (as most had to move to current Apple
hardware due to various reasons) we ticked off at Adobe for not
having *anything* to help Rosetta apps be less crash happy.

We've moved away from many Adobe apps at this point and
unlikely to trust them in the future. Kudos to Quark for getting
back in the game.
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Quark back in the game?
by LEOPiC March 6, 2007 7:24 AM PST
Like if.... be realistic, Quark is long time dead, it's complicated, it's ugly and not practical, it only is, if you have been using it for more than 3 years, then again PEARL programmers will never leave PEARL, just because they think it's superior, not because it really is...
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Quark is the Game
by jeph4e March 6, 2007 8:01 AM PST
Look if you're in publishing/ad/media - Quark still owns a
mighty nice size of the market.

And yes it is all those negative things - but it is a lot less crash-
happy than InDesign under Rosetta.

My point is Adobe could have addressed this a long time ago but
were just too interanally focused. No doubt it will be a suite of
great products but they could have addressed some issues prior
to May '07

Adobe got freehand and own illustrator and corel stopped
coding for the mac.
gnome, lineforms...
by LEOPiC March 6, 2007 7:28 AM PST
You can not really compare open-source hobbied based applications (I AM NOT saying all of them are) to the power/quality of a Photoshop and... just so you know this morning I was prompted to update my Camera RAW Plugin, I use Photoshop CS2 and well, I did not take a NEW Suite to update that... did it ?
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interactive mind
by azareus March 6, 2007 8:33 AM PST
flash is great for creating extensible web apps and unlocking the interactivity of the mind. even improving the brain.
http://brain.com
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Not if they're running Linux
by Eggs Ackley March 6, 2007 10:02 AM PST
"If there is one killer feature in the new version of Photoshop that is not in the open-source product, people will want Photoshop."
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...or OSX, or Windows...
by Penguinisto March 6, 2007 3:00 PM PST
Seriously - it had better be "killer" enough to justify the costs;
otherwise I'll stick with GIMP, which does pretty much the whole
schmiel, thanks much.

/P
Adobe Reader - Kinko's link
by James verDoorn June 24, 2007 9:46 AM PDT
It truly is Adobe's game to lose and one way to do that is by
offending their loyal customers.

Adobe should have known that adding a direct link to Kinko's in
the new Adobe Reader was a slap in the face to the thousands of
professionals that have purchased their software thru the years.

Most printers and graphic designers rely on Adobe software
when emailing proofs to our clients.

I, for one, do not want my clients to be required to use software
with a link to Kinko's in order to view the proofs I have created.

This was an outrageous decision.
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