Comments on: Europe's software patent war ignites again

Patent debate may be taken out of hands of elected politicians under new measure, Parliament groups say.

[asdf]

American companies destroyed by patents

Their number is legion. YEsterday, and no, this is not a joke, MS patented putting in a whitespace character and removing a whitespace character from a document. Two different patents.

Patents and IP make no sense where they disincentivize smaller companies from innovation and market participation. Capitalism is about about the free market, not offering monopoly power for every twit and twiddle and moreover, offering monopoly power for obvious things which are merely the most obvious implications of a complex system. It's as if the first to shout out the most obvious facts gets awarded patent protection and ability to legally terrorize their competition. Remember, patents WERE INTENDED AS a way of coaxing inventors into sharing their ideas by promising their ideas would be protected. Now it's about delivering to large companies who can afford to file 3000 patents a year (microsoft) and defend them (3000 * a million == 3 billion- that's billion with a Bill) a lock down on the market no matter how crappy their software and the absolute destruction of any company who tries to enter the market.

Don't let what happened to the US happen in Europe- your livlihoods, your markets and your freedom depend on YOU taking action.

[frankly0]

This assessment is crackpot

Look, who REALLY has a monopoly in the software market?

Why, Microsoft, of course.

And how has Microsoft achieved its monopoly? By STEALING ideas from all kinds of innovators, and bolting them onto its offerings. Did it need patents to get to this stage, or to maintain its monopoly? Of course not. Have you ever even heard of a case in which Microsoft has asserted its patents against a software firm? Certainly not that I've heard of.

In fact, in the US, Microsoft is doing everything it can to gut the strength of the patent system. That's why it has joined the anti-patent forces on virtually every important court case around. You guys are really best buddies on this issue. Microsoft supports software patents in Europe mainly because it know that the European patent system almost always works in favor of large companies, and has no history of protecting the small inventor, unlike the US patent system.

How do you fight the theft of ideas that has made Microsoft what it is? ONLY by fighting a monopoly with a monopoly. Using patents, genuine innovators can establish their rights to an important market, so that Microsoft cannot steal it away from them.

What do you offer that innovator in terms of protection? NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I'm sure Microsoft just LOVES people like you. You're fighting their fight for them.

[Dr_Faulk]

McGreevey is a living joke.

He used to be Minister for Finance in my country (Ireland) and was severely disliked by the public. Oh, oh, but if you were a big business owner or a staunch supporter of his party then you had no problem with him despite his incessant greed. I'm suprised he's in the position he's in now.

Go away, McGreevey!

[protagonistic]

RE: McGreevey is a living joke.

Sounds to me like he wants the EU to end up in the same mess we
here in the US are in. If you want s good example of how not to
issue patents look no further than our system.

[Lolo Gecko]

consider that ...

this country was founded on the principle of human rights, one of which is secured by the first ammendment to the constitution. John Adam's rational for the need to acknowledge (and thus protect) intellectual property is as valid today as it was when this nation was first formed.

that not withstanding, i wonder if i could get a patent on:
1. set a bit.
2. clear a bit.
3. detect a bit and branch.

:)

[qwerty75]

patents today

The patent system was set up to allow an inventor to benefit while allowing the invention to be disseminated and advanced.

Very different then the abuses we see today.

I don't see why you can't patent those, they are as ridiculous as every other software patent.

[bluemist9999]

Patents need more balance

Patents in general are useful if they serve a social good---making innovations public in exchange for a temporary monopoly on the implementation and use of that idea.

For example, drug companies would go broke if they had no patents because it costs billions of dollars to find a drug, develop it, test it and so on.

However, I believe the "patent anything" mentality provides no social benefit, only a monetary benefit to a small number of companies.

The fundamental question is this---where and how do we draw the line? Both extremes have no benefit to society.

[Captain_Spock]

Here Europe, take a look at this!

But please understand, when one participates in a competition the "rules" are already established and to say that "More U.S.-style litigation is not the solution" is rather pathetic for countries that appears not to be having a significant software industry of their own; and, in the fast pace world in which companies now operate... it is either you lead, follow or drop out of the "competition" altogether.

The maturity of the software industry has allowed the following to rules and regulations to evolve; "Software Patents for Methods of Doing Business?A Second Class Citizen No More". Please follow the attached link:

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/matters/matters-0012.html

[qwerty75]

lol

Appears to not have a significant software industry?

Given that many of the major innovations in computer science were developed in Europe(including the world wide web, you might want to rethink your ignorant statement.